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Could Nebraska be talked into returning to the Big 12?
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It’s all that matters to OU fans too.
That’s why there’s not an Academic Forum on HuskerMax.
I would like a mix of Big 10 and 12. It’s a pipe dream, but fun to think about.
North: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, KU, KSU
South: Missouri, Arkansas, OU, OSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech
of course the more realistic (barely) is having KU and OU join the Big 10 with us.
North: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, KU, KSU
South: Missouri, Arkansas, OU, OSU, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech
of course the more realistic (barely) is having KU and OU join the Big 10 with us.
Hard pass.
Big XII is momentarily stable while Texas runs the show unencumbered, and is allowed to end-run around equitable revenue sharing while the others bow. Taking a 30% cut in conference revenue from ~50 mil to ~35 mil per year (B1G revenue sharing number vs Big XII revenue sharing number) is enough to end the discussion right there... but if anyone comes back and looks for any kind of true partnership, Texas won't hesitate to hold the conference hostage or throw it into turmoil with their threats again. No thanks.
I liked the geographical element of the Big 8 era teams too, and wish the B1G had added some midwest schools instead of Maryland/Rutgers, but there's 0 future in the Big XII.
I liked the geographical element of the Big 8 era teams too, and wish the B1G had added some midwest schools instead of Maryland/Rutgers, but there's 0 future in the Big XII.
Just keep kissing Bevo's ring Sooner 24, bow to the your overlord
My memory is of the voting by each school at conference meetings. It seemed that NE was opposed to some items but rarely did other schools agree with NE, conveniently siding with Texas in the voting. Thus Texas was running the show and continues to do so today. No, no and no - it's not in the best interest of NE to be in a conference controlled by a single school.
Winning sure feels good!
Look at your comments:
1) Sooners have dominated B12 and have an easy road to the playoffs - that road has coincided with a unusual decline of Texas during that time period with them turning over their head coach position twice in a very short time period. Additionally the Baylor scandal, Snyder's retirement, Leach leaving TTU ... all have weakened the B12. The B12 after the PAC12 been left out of more playoffs than any other conference.
2) B12 is stable only because Texas cannot leave in the near term without significant financial penalties (Longhorn network, B12 conference agreement). Once that time period ends another wave of realignment is likely and Texas will be at the forefront of that. The checks being distributed pale significantly in comparison to the SEC and B1G.
3) The only sports that matter - football and basketball - you are right - very little success. In other sports - Nebraska has a national championship since joining the B1G. They seem to be extremely competitive in all other non-revenue sports including wrestling, women's volleyball, track & field, baseball ...
4) Winning in football ... is the lack of winning due to the move to the B1G or is it due to the extremely poor leadership and constant turnover in head coaches? Both happened to coincide over the same time period.
Even if the Big 12 implodes we’re fine. We can go anywhere we want. The suitors will be lined up courting us.
Yes, this is what happened on everything from accepting partial qualifiers to how to divide up the teams towhether or not to have a championship game, where to host it, etc. Bill Byrne was the AD then, and off the record when he asked officials from other Big 8 schools why they were voting with Texas when it wasn't even in their best interest, they told him some version of this: "Well, it would help if you guys lost a conference game every now and then." From the very beginning the Big 8 schools saw the Big 12 as a way to pull Nebraska back into the pack, and they gave little thought to what that meant for the conference's future as Texas was not good at that time, having only won the weak Southwest Conference a couple of times in the prior 15+ years.
I don't know what all has survived to be digitally available online, but the Omaha World Herald covered that stuff in excruciating detail in print at the time.
Except for the B1G. Nebraska's academic reputation was an issue for Nebraska's entry into the B1G, but Delany was personally persuaded by Osborne and Perlman that Nebraska was a good "cultural fit" for the B1G based on its sterling reputation for following NCAA rules and its long-standing record of academic all-Americans. Delany said that that conversation--where Osborne and Perlman told him that "there are many things more important than money" as far as conference consideration--was what pushed Nebraska to the front of the suitors for joining the B1G.
Oklahoma is in a similar situation as far as academic reputation as compared to Nebraska--certainly not better--and its reputation for NCAA rules infractions and lack of academic focus with its athletes, to put it charitably, is not impressive. Add to that the desire to have the B1G continue to be contiguous, and Oklahoma being part of the B1G would likely require the concomitant movement of Kansas to the B1G (or the less likely option of Missouri leaving the SEC to join the B1G). Kansas would actually be a more attractive option for the B1G in every way except for their deep lack of success on the football field. Still, that wasn't a hindrance for Rutgers, who was in a similar position, except they also lacked Kansas' quality basketball program. Kansas would also bring with it a lock on the Kansas City market. Oklahoma would bring Oklahoma City, and possibly a lot of Dallas, depending on how that TV market would be weighted.
Culture-wise, Oklahoma belongs in the SEC. Cheaters gonna cheat.
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I wouldn't know lately
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The 3 choices if everything blows up again is SEC, PAC12 and B1G. Probably in that order. I don't see the B1G happening for the reasons highlighted by MABC. Not a lot of suitors if you ask me ... two choices - one probably more desirable than the other but OU could end up just like aTm ... enjoying cashing its checks while the on field success will likely wane.
There’s not a conference that would turn down the chance to get one of the top all time football programs in their conference.
