Also -- the fans who believe a coach should have more time after four consecutive losing seasons are every bit as delusional as those demanding/expecting national championships again.
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Sure, I generally agree. There was some tongue-in-cheek, as that's the best way to operate in the forums.
My point, however, that 8-9 wins at Iowa State is the historical equivalent of 12-13 wins at Nebraska. Campbell doesn't have near the resources nor recruiting talent at Iowa State that Nebraska does -- and probably never will.
The flip side is Iowa State doesn't have a lunatic fanbase that criticizes what color sweatshirt a coach wears on the sidelines. So to say it's a lower pressure job is an understatement.
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No they aren't. Not even close.
Absolutely TRUE GnT!! Or farting and not calling it, or chewing tobacco, or beard.......or critique every freaking word of a presser. Give the guy a break and try supporting the team for the next couple years.
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I'd even take back many of the Pelini players that Frost inherited:
Luke Gifford
Mick Stoltenberg
Cole Conrad
Tanner Farmer
Jerald Foster
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Every situation is different, so we're not necessarily comparing apples to apples. Congrats to those coaches, but what Allen inherited vs. what Campbell inherited vs. what Frost inherited is all different. I think Frost should be doing better, but that has nothing to do with Allen or Campbell or Bob Devaney.
It's easy to identify the problems if that's what you want to focus on, but some of it is lacking context. We've seen several players leave, some of whom were fairly highly rated recruits, but the transfer portal also includes walk-ons leaving the program. Since we have a much higher number of those types of players, it stands to reason that our transfer portal numbers would be higher. Has anyone done a breakdown of scholarship players leaving vs. our peers? We are probably still high, but maybe not quite the outlier it appears like based on raw numbers.
Split on playing a bowl game? The fans are probably more "split" than the team is on that topic.
I see a team that makes mistakes but has never quit on each other. I see a team that is competitive in football games far more often than not. The record is what it is (which is ugly), but we're not far from being a winning program. I think we have a more solid foundation right now than the house of cards we were a few years ago.
I agree that Frost needs a better season next year. I think the difference between you and me right now is that I firmly believe it will happen, while you almost seem to be rooting against it (almost).
You are very good at researching and putting that knowledge into writing. I'd love to see you (and others) invest that energy into finding positive things to help build up the program instead of finding things to help tear it down. There are good things out there if you want to find them.
We, as a fan base, have spent the last two decades being angry and bitter about something or another. I'm in that group, too. But maybe that's something we should try to put behind us for a little while. Easier said than done, I suppose... for all of us.
I fear, however, that we may be Scott Frost and staff away from being a winning program. There is strong evidence to suggest that we could be a winning program right now were it not for some questionable coaching decisions.
There are zzero let me repeat that zero positives when you only win three games. At the end of the day the coaches and players aren’t getting it done. Sick of the give it time they don’t have talent. Those are excuses and all the terrible coaches that do nothing but lose have those. Time to stop with the excuses and just win some games. Shoot the fans aren’t even asking for championships just five hundred at least then we would look like we are improving.
5 to 7 years, no way with NU's resources should it take a good coach that long no matter how bad it was before. As *** has pointed out, it was not as bad as some say. I agree that there is no reason to fire now or even after a .500 season next year. If a coach at NU can't get to .500 in 4 years then they are just not a good coach.
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Wow. Scott Frost is not a saint. He's a human being who happened to play QB for 2 years at Nebraska. He can fail like anyone else. He's coached for 5 seasons and 4 of them had losing records. I hope he doesn't fail at NU, but if he does, it would not constitute a cosmic disaster. And if he does, we move on to the next coach. And we keep doing it until we find one that wins enough to put us back on the map. It's really not hard to understand.
I hate the phrase, "If Frost can't do it......then who can?"
Who can? The next guy.
That fan base also does not give them a huge home field advantage or a huge recruiting advantage like NU. Pressure does not impact a good coaches W-L records, if it does then they are not the right coach.
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Sadly many fans have reached the point where they believe .500 is a good season? Yes of course it's an improvement from the past 4 years but it's not even close to a good season. Frost is getting year 4 and perhaps even year 5 without having a .500 season next year. That's TBD by the powers to be but there's little joy in the Husker Nation at the moment. I can only hope that next year is truly a positive turning point. We need to start winning many of those oh so close games. I've done my own research and find very very few coaches at major programs that had 4 consecutive losing seasons and then turned it around. Can only hope that Frost will be the exception and (OTHER THEN QB's) is getting the talent to make it happen. However until we have a reliable quality Big 10 QB it's not going to happen imo.
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