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Poll: The 9-win Season

Frequency of 9-win seasons over the course of HCSF's entire career?

  • 100% of the time

    Votes: 12 14.5%
  • 95 to 100% of the time

    Votes: 16 19.3%
  • 90 to 95% of the time

    Votes: 21 25.3%
  • 85 to 90 % of the time

    Votes: 20 24.1%
  • 80 to 85 % of the time

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • 75 to 80 % of the time

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • 70 to 75% of the time

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • 65 to 70 % of the time

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • 60 to 65% of the time

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • less than 60% of the time

    Votes: 3 3.6%

  • Total voters
    83
I see your point. Bo won 9 games every year but he did not achieve excellence. However, I think a 9-win season is quite good and very hard to achieve on a consistent basis. Coaches who have won 9 games per season at an 80% clip over their entire career are rare. How many current HCs can claim to have done that? You can probably count them on one hand. I don't think Nick Saban has done it.

In CF, a 9-win season is commonly considered a good season. Why make it more complicated than that?
I can name one off the top of my head. Having done it 8 times in his first 10 years. Nick Sabin is close to 80% but not quite there. Urban Meyer has done it 12 out of 14 times so he is about 86%.
 

It upsets me to even consider this, because I want there to be a standard that we hold the huskers to, and I think it should be 10 wins regularly. If they win the West, then they will be playing 14 games per year. I agree with shooting for hardware as long as we keep the baseline high as well. I'll admit that the college football landscape is way tougher than it was in the glory days. That is why I agree that undefeated seasons will be very rare and the 2 or three loss seasons may come a lot more frequently too. But I dont expect to see Frost losing to teams he is supposed to beat - ever. Its going to be fun watching this play out. They'd have to lose 5 games to cause them to miss the 9 win season. I dont think they will ever be a 5 loss team again. This first season will be the most likely, but even if they lose to Michigan Wisconsin and Ohio State, they may need two more losses to get below 9 wins. I am predicting 8-4 with a bowl win, so 9-4.

I get it that I am over the top optimistic and I will be disappointed, but I am disappointed every time they lose. Why not hope for the best and establish my own expected reality. It is possible that even with Frost, Nebraska will have its ups and downs, but I expect it to be way more stable that has been for quite a while.

btw - I voted 95-100, imagine what the 100% fools are thinking, ha ha
 
Jeff Devanney 2006 2017 12 97 83 14 0 .856 Trinity (CT) (2006–present)
Urban Meyer 2001 2017 16 208 177 31 0 .851 Bowling Green (2001–2002), Utah (2003–2004), Florida (2005–2010), Ohio State (2012–present)
Pete Fredenburg 1998 2017 20 249 210 39 0 .843 Mary Hardin–Baylor (1998–present)
Joseph Smith 2006 2017 12 134 112 22 0 .836 Linfield (2006–present)
Joe Fincham 1996 2017 22 245 201 44 0 .820 Wittenberg (1996–present)
Mike Sirianni 2003 2017 15 170 139 31 0 .818 Washington & Jefferson (2003–present)
Chris Petersen 2006 2017 12 158 129 29 0 .816 Boise State (2006–2013), Washington (2014–present)
Mike Van Diest 1999 2017 19 246 198 46 0 .811 Carroll (MT) (1999–present)
Lance Leipold 2007 2017 11 151 122 29 0 .808 Wisconsin–Whitewater (2007–2014), Buffalo (2015–present
Rick Willis 1997 2017 21 208 167 41 0 .803 Wartburg (1997–present)
John Wristen 2008 2017 10 121 97 24 0 .802 CSU–Pueblo (2008–present)
Glenn Caruso 2006 2017 12 145 116 29 0 .800 St. Thomas (MN) (2006–present)

only 2 Power 5 coaches on that list.
If I figured correctly Scott Frost need to average almost an 11-2 record over the next 8 years to reach 80%
88 wins plus 19 at UCF =107
16 losses plus 7 at UCF = 23
88/130= 82.3%
 
It upsets me to even consider this, because I want there to be a standard that we hold the huskers to, and I think it should be 10 wins regularly. If they win the West, then they will be playing 14 games per year. I agree with shooting for hardware as long as we keep the baseline high as well. I'll admit that the college football landscape is way tougher than it was in the glory days. That is why I agree that undefeated seasons will be very rare and the 2 or three loss seasons may come a lot more frequently too. But I dont expect to see Frost losing to teams he is supposed to beat - ever. Its going to be fun watching this play out. They'd have to lose 5 games to cause them to miss the 9 win season. I dont think they will ever be a 5 loss team again. This first season will be the most likely, but even if they lose to Michigan Wisconsin and Ohio State, they may need two more losses to get below 9 wins. I am predicting 8-4 with a bowl win, so 9-4.

I get it that I am over the top optimistic and I will be disappointed, but I am disappointed every time they lose. Why not hope for the best and establish my own expected reality. It is possible that even with Frost, Nebraska will have its ups and downs, but I expect it to be way more stable that has been for quite a while.

btw - I voted 95-100, imagine what the 100% fools are thinking, ha ha
Well I wish I could be as confident in this year. SF has a daunting task in a rebuild from a 4-8 team. Yes I know last years team was better than their 4-8 but if we had that team with this schedule we could be looking at 2-10. That's how far tougher the schedule is this year. I think we are hoping for too much the first year thinking that Michigan State, Northwestern, Purdue and Iowa should be winnable games. They haven't been in the last few years. There is some pretty good coaches in the B1G and they aren't going to lay down just because its Scott Frost. And Scott Frost isn't at his best yet either. He's going to continue to grow so we have to be careful thinking a win against the likes of Mark Dantonio are going to be easy.
 



Jeff Devanney 2006 2017 12 97 83 14 0 .856 Trinity (CT) (2006–present)
Urban Meyer 2001 2017 16 208 177 31 0 .851 Bowling Green (2001–2002), Utah (2003–2004), Florida (2005–2010), Ohio State (2012–present)
Pete Fredenburg 1998 2017 20 249 210 39 0 .843 Mary Hardin–Baylor (1998–present)
Joseph Smith 2006 2017 12 134 112 22 0 .836 Linfield (2006–present)
Joe Fincham 1996 2017 22 245 201 44 0 .820 Wittenberg (1996–present)
Mike Sirianni 2003 2017 15 170 139 31 0 .818 Washington & Jefferson (2003–present)
Chris Petersen 2006 2017 12 158 129 29 0 .816 Boise State (2006–2013), Washington (2014–present)
Mike Van Diest 1999 2017 19 246 198 46 0 .811 Carroll (MT) (1999–present)
Lance Leipold 2007 2017 11 151 122 29 0 .808 Wisconsin–Whitewater (2007–2014), Buffalo (2015–present
Rick Willis 1997 2017 21 208 167 41 0 .803 Wartburg (1997–present)
John Wristen 2008 2017 10 121 97 24 0 .802 CSU–Pueblo (2008–present)
Glenn Caruso 2006 2017 12 145 116 29 0 .800 St. Thomas (MN) (2006–present)

only 2 Power 5 coaches on that list.
If I figured correctly Scott Frost need to average almost an 11-2 record over the next 8 years to reach 80%
88 wins plus 19 at UCF =107
16 losses plus 7 at UCF = 23
88/130= 82.3%
The quote wasn't winning percentage. It was active coaches who won 9+ games a year 80% of the time. Chris Peterson has only done it 9 out of 12 times so he isn't on the list either. I'm not sure on the rest but I doubt it is many. Yes Bo does fall in that list.
 
The quote wasn't winning percentage. It was active coaches who won 9+ games a year 80% of the time. Chris Peterson has only done it 9 out of 12 times so he isn't on the list either. I'm not sure on the rest but I doubt it is many. Yes Bo does fall in that list.

You have confirmed, even with today's expanded schedules, that winning 9 games per season on a consistent basis (80% of the time) is rare. I understand why folks might prefer to use the 10-win season as a measure of achievement, but consistently winning 9 games in a season is also a good measure because it is still a hard thing to do.
 
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I don’t think he will hit 9 wins in year 1, so 100% is probably out the window.

The 9-win mark will be especially difficult for SF to achieve this season. But I think his chances are about 50/50. I believe we will have outstanding QB play this season....best in the West.

We have three great QBs pushing each other. Whoever comes out on top is going to be very good.

Verduzco puts a high value on passes that have both velocity and accuracy. That's what Gebbia and Bunch have. AM has accuracy but less velocity (at this time) than TG and Bunch. I love the way TG and Bunch can zip their short and intermediate passes into tight windows. Will it be enough for one of them to become the starter over the fleet-footed AM?

We shall see.
 
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Tom Osborne set the standard for consistency at Nebraska by winning at least 9 games in each of his 25 seasons. Bo Pelini was able to match that by winning at least 9 games in each of his 7 seasons.

Using 9-wins as the NU standard for a good season, here is how our last 6 coaches stack up

1. Tom Osborne - 25 for 25 - 100%
2. Bo Pelini - 7 for 7 - 100%
3. Frank Solich - 5 for 6 - 83%
4. Bob Devaney - 9 for 11 - 82% (6 of BD's 11 seasons had only 10 scheduled games)
5. Mike Riley - 1 for 3 - 33%
6. Bill Callahan - 1 for 4 - 25%

21st century .....

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Don't forget NU plays now on average 1 more game per season than TO did during his era. Despite all the barriers nowadays - admission standards, more competition in D1, more conference games ... that more additional game per season is a big advantage.

Not all 9 win seasons are the same.

3 non-conference games - should on average win 2.5+ of them per year.
Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, Northwestern - should on average win 3+ of them per year.

That leaves 5 other games - Wisconsin, Iowa and 3 divisional cross overs games - should on average win 2.5+ of them per year.

That is 8 wins without stretching one bit. 9 every season should be do-able.
 


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