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Huskerhunter

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5 Year Member
You were the one making the ridiculous statement. There was no justification to your comment other than to incite an argument, and you knew it.

Absolutely, playing time is relevant to coaching experience. JP knows the ropes and what it takes to win. He was an outstanding player and would be an outstanding motivator as a position coach. End of conversation.
Exhibit 1,563 proving that playing and coaching talent are not that well connected, see a certain QB named Bart Starr:

While Starr was a player, the Packers won five NFL championships and the first two Super Bowls. As coach, Starr's Packers had an overall regular-season record of 52 wins, 76 losses and three ties from 1975 through 1983. The team reached the playoffs only once — in the strike-shortened 1982 season.​

Or our own Tommie Frazier: https://journalstar.com/sports/frazier-resigns-as-doane-s-coach/article_27df5b19-fd67-5779-8abb-8f471f0bb278.html

Less than 20 months since Tommie Frazier was praised for his potential at Doane College, the school announced Tuesday he was leaving as head football coach.
Frazier, voted one of the top two Nebraska football players ever and the quarterback for two Husker national championships, ended his tenure with Doane by “mutual agreement,” both Frazier and Doane athletic director Greg Heier said.
Frazier, whose teams were 2-8 in 2005 and 1-9 this year, had whittled his squad to fewer than 40 players who were dressed for the final game of the season.

Conversely, Mike Leach never played football at any level and is 133–83 lifetime as a college coach.

Here's a whole article on the subject:

This Is The Real Reason The Best Athletes Usually Make The Worst Coaches
BY DAN SCOTTI


https://www.elitedaily.com/sports/amazing-athletes-flop-coaches/1339816
 
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goodnterribles

Regulators! Let's mount up.
5 Year Member
You were the one making the ridiculous statement. There was no justification to your comment other than to incite an argument, and you knew it.

Absolutely, playing time is relevant to coaching experience. JP knows the ropes and what it takes to win. He was an outstanding player and would be an outstanding motivator as a position coach. End of conversation.
But that doesn't automatically mean he would know how to teach. Big difference.
 

goodnterribles

Regulators! Let's mount up.
5 Year Member
Exhibit 1,563 proving that playing and coaching talent are not that well connected, see a certain QB named Bart Starr:

While Starr was a player, the Packers won five NFL championships and the first two Super Bowls. As coach, Starr's Packers had an overall regular-season record of 52 wins, 76 losses and three ties from 1975 through 1983. The team reached the playoffs only once — in the strike-shortened 1982 season.​

Or our own Tommie Frazier: https://journalstar.com/sports/frazier-resigns-as-doane-s-coach/article_27df5b19-fd67-5779-8abb-8f471f0bb278.html

Less than 20 months since Tommie Frazier was praised for his potential at Doane College, the school announced Tuesday he was leaving as head football coach.
Frazier, voted one of the top two Nebraska football players ever and the quarterback for two Husker national championships, ended his tenure with Doane by “mutual agreement,” both Frazier and Doane athletic director Greg Heier said.
Frazier, whose teams were 2-8 in 2005 and 1-9 this year, had whittled his squad to fewer than 40 players who were dressed for the final game of the season.

Conversely, Mike Leach never played football at any level and is 133–83 lifetime as a college coach.

Here's a whole article on the subject:

This Is The Real Reason The Best Athletes Usually Make The Worst Coaches
BY DAN SCOTTI


https://www.elitedaily.com/sports/amazing-athletes-flop-coaches/1339816
The reason why Magic hated coached and MJ never got into it is they would have demanded all of their players to have the work ethic they did, which is unreasonable. Larry Bird is one of the few all-time greats in any sport that was successful as a coach.
 

Discoverer27

Red Shirt
2 Year Member
You must be Republican. All you want to do is to argue so as to hear the little marble roll around in your empty cranium. JP would, IMO, make a great D-line coach.
Yeah. Maybe we should give scholarships to kids that are unwilling to play. Could call it the Red New Deal.
 
Exhibit 1,563 proving that playing and coaching talent are not that well connected, see a certain QB named Bart Starr:

While Starr was a player, the Packers won five NFL championships and the first two Super Bowls. As coach, Starr's Packers had an overall regular-season record of 52 wins, 76 losses and three ties from 1975 through 1983. The team reached the playoffs only once — in the strike-shortened 1982 season.​

Or our own Tommie Frazier: https://journalstar.com/sports/frazier-resigns-as-doane-s-coach/article_27df5b19-fd67-5779-8abb-8f471f0bb278.html

Less than 20 months since Tommie Frazier was praised for his potential at Doane College, the school announced Tuesday he was leaving as head football coach.
Frazier, voted one of the top two Nebraska football players ever and the quarterback for two Husker national championships, ended his tenure with Doane by “mutual agreement,” both Frazier and Doane athletic director Greg Heier said.
Frazier, whose teams were 2-8 in 2005 and 1-9 this year, had whittled his squad to fewer than 40 players who were dressed for the final game of the season.

Conversely, Mike Leach never played football at any level and is 133–83 lifetime as a college coach.

Here's a whole article on the subject:

This Is The Real Reason The Best Athletes Usually Make The Worst Coaches
BY DAN SCOTTI


https://www.elitedaily.com/sports/amazing-athletes-flop-coaches/1339816
All of this holds true except for Wrestling. The 2 greatest American college wrestlers of all time are also the 2 greatest college wrestling coaches of all time. Cael is still young and with time might very well overtake Gable in terms of coaching.
 
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Boji Husker

Junior Varsity
All of this holds true except for Wrestling. The 2 greatest American college wrestlers of all time are also the 2 greatest college wrestling coaches of all time. Cael is still young and with time might very well overtake Gable in terms of coaching.
IMO Gable was and will remain the greatest coach of all time....could have coached longer than he did at Iowa and look at his coaching tree. Cael is also great. Have a bit of bias, was an athlete at Iowa 76-80 and alot of the wrestlers were my buds , Randy Lewis, Fitzgerald, Banach bros., Zelesky,etc... lots of great stories with those guys.
 

YUENGLING

Junior Varsity
5 Year Member
What? They're not happy going 31-9 the last three years with a trip to the Rose Bowl and a Fiesta Bowl win? Not to mention they're recruiting at a clip they haven't seen in decades? Tough crowd.
Trust me they’re not.
 
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