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What"s the minimum number of victories expected for 2012?


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09/01 Southern Miss --- Toss up
09/08 UCLA --- Toss up
09/15 Arkansas State --- Toss up
09/22 --- Win
09/29 #Wisconsin --- Loss
10/06 #Ohio State --- Loss
10/20 #Northwestern --- Win
10/27 #Michigan --- Loss
11/03 #Michigan St. --- Loss
11/10 #Penn State --- Win
11/17 #Minnesota --- Win
11/23 #Iowa --- Toss up

Non-Conference - 2-2 or 3-1
Miss St came off a great season, but will have a new coach. Could go either way.
UCLA has loads of talent, the game is at their place - if the new staff is good, I could see us getting thumped.
I could see Ark St winning, they are an improved team and their new head coach adds another dimension.
Other - We'll add a team we will certainly beat.

Conference - 4-4 or 3-5
Wisc, OSU. Mi and Mi St have better players and will all be better teams than NU. Wisc needs to find a qb but will be as good or better through the rest of the team. OSU has much better athletes than NU and Urban can coach. Michigan (a team we should have beat this year) will be better yet in year two of Brady Hoke and Dennard will be working on his Heisman. This might be Mi States best team yet, ferocious defense but needs a QB. We don't really do upsets anymore, so I don't see us winning any of these 4. We should win the other 4, but the Iowa game is at their house, so I think that evens it up (although I think we should win.)

If you are right, Pelini will no longer be the coach. The petitions will be out in late September, early October at the latest. No excuse for fewer than 10 wins with 17...count em...17 returning starters!
 

If you are right, Pelini will no longer be the coach. The petitions will be out in late September, early October at the latest. No excuse for fewer than 10 wins with 17...count em...17 returning starters!

I think I see where you get your numbers, but in fact in terms of regular starters we lost three off the OL, a FB, DL (Moore/Crick,) LB (ouch,) CB (ouch,) and S. That leaves 14 end of year starters returning plus a kicker/punter and long snapper. There are other guys who have started, so if you throw in Baptiste, Cooper, Mitchell, Osborne, PJ Smith, Rodriguez, Sirles, and Moore, one could say we have 25 returning starters including both kicking positions and long snapper. The number of returning starters is certainly a big factor, but we have certainly seen years where teams like Kansas return everyone and still aren't that good. To go from 7-5 to 10-2 (the best we will be,) we will need some other things:

#1 - A QB. Whether it's TMart finally becoming one (unlikely) or a back-up emerging (unlikely) we need an offense that can consistently help the defense. We haven't had this since Pelini's 1st season. In Beck's offense (as opposed to TO's option offenses,) we have to have a QB that is a passing threat, and without that, good defenses will continue to stomp us no matter how good our o-line becomes.
#2 - Young guys to emerge on defense (this one's possible.) Can Peat, Rome or Williams become disruptors? Can we find two lock-down corners? Compton developed nicely this season but can we develop three solid linebackers? And please with four senior and one junior DE's, can one of them step up to get pressure on the QB and protect the edge on scrambling QB's??? Our nickle package improved once Evans settled in, but our dime was never that good. I think Seisay and our new dline coach are key to next season's D.
#3 - O-line improvement (IMO likely) - Outside of the 4th quarter collapse against USC, I thought they were an improved unit. Can they take another step with the touted young guys we have on the roster and become formidable?
#4 - Luck with injuries. Few college teams outside the SEC have real depth. We will have injuries, but there are some injuries that would truly damage - Compton, Rex, Green and Stafford need to stay healthy. Since Bo doesn't like to see his back-ups play, the back-ups don't have much experience so injuries become even more critical at NU.
#5 - Re-ignite the swagger the 2009 defense had and develop it on both sides of the ball. Does Bo know swagger? Can Bo develop swagger? We have all seen changes in momentum caused by a turnover, blocked kick, etc. change football games, but teams with swagger stop those momentum swings like immobile D-linemen stop Tmart on a scramble. Ron Brown hit it the other day in the LJS talking about "maturity". Does a team luck into maturity or is it developed by coaches that know swagger? Having suffered through many Barry Switzer teams for a lot of years, IMO some coaches can develop swagger. Urban Meyer's OSU teams will have swagger...

IMO, there is no way we beat OSU without divine intervention. I do believe we can beat/compete with all other teams on the schedule and if each of the items above happen, we can be 10-2 heading into the CCG. Based on what Pelini has produced to date, I think 7-5 or 8-4 is likely.
 
Goofy thread, but it's to be expected. Throw in the "new coach" and "what kind of quarterback" gems in this forum, and our collective ignorance shows loud and clear. Where do we get such "fans?"
 
IMO, there is no way we beat OSU without divine intervention. I do believe we can beat/compete with all other teams on the schedule and if each of the items above happen, we can be 10-2 heading into the CCG. Based on what Pelini has produced to date, I think 7-5 or 8-4 is likely.

Yipes, more of the same. BTW, I think we got this decade's share of divine intervention during this year's OSU game!
 



Yipes, more of the same. BTW, I think we got this decade's share of divine intervention during this year's OSU game!

You could just as easily say Michigan used up its divine share against the Huskers last November. Or Wisconsin, or Northwestern...
 
You could just as easily say Michigan used up its divine share against the Huskers last November. Or Wisconsin, or Northwestern...

Are you joking? All three of those teams beat us soundly...the worst of them in Lincoln! Our "great comeback," on the other hand was largely the result of an accidental injury to their inexperienced QB (the one that was dominating our defense), plus a miracle theft by LaVonte David. No injury to Miller, no Husker victory.

PS-truth told...we were no better than an 8-5 team this year...our "trajectory" was truly negative this year.
 
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Are you joking? All three of those teams beat us soundly...the worst of them in Lincoln! Our "great comeback," on the other hand was largely the result of an accidental injury to their inexperienced QB (the one that was dominating our defense), plus a miracle theft by LaVonte David. No injury to Miller, no Husker victory.

PS-truth told...we were no better than an 8-5 team this year...our "trajectory" was truly negative this year.

Orwell would find this a particularly compelling example.
 
Orwell would find this a particularly compelling example.

If you think ANYTHING in that post was remotely questionably, then I would guess that you did not even watch those 4 games. If you did, you'd know that everything in the post was correct.
 
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Are you joking? All three of those teams beat us soundly...the worst of them in Lincoln! Our "great comeback," on the other hand was largely the result of an accidental injury to their inexperienced QB (the one that was dominating our defense), plus a miracle theft by LaVonte David. No injury to Miller, no Husker victory.

PS-truth told...we were no better than an 8-5 team this year...our "trajectory" was truly negative this year.

I agree with your first paragraph. "Divine interventions" are saved for close games, not 28 point margins ! Ridiculous to say Michigan was the beneficiary of "divine intervention".

Your second paragraph...not so much. I assume, when you say "we were no better than a 8-5 team this year", you're alluding to the comeback against Ohio State, with the circumstances that went along with it.

But if you're going to discount or "take away" a win, then you must also do the same with a close loss...i.e. Northwestern.
 
I agree with your first paragraph. "Divine interventions" are saved for close games, not 28 point margins ! Ridiculous to say Michigan was the beneficiary of "divine intervention".

Your second paragraph...not so much. I assume, when you say "we were no better than a 8-5 team this year", you're alluding to the comeback against Ohio State, with the circumstances that went along with it.

But if you're going to discount or "take away" a win, then you must also do the same with a close loss...i.e. Northwestern.

If I actually thought GFoA knew what he was talking about, I'd be much more "serious" with my response to his "divine intervention" claptrap. He doesn't, I wasn't...
 
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I agree with your first paragraph. "Divine interventions" are saved for close games, not 28 point margins ! Ridiculous to say Michigan was the beneficiary of "divine intervention".

Your second paragraph...not so much. I assume, when you say "we were no better than a 8-5 team this year", you're alluding to the comeback against Ohio State, with the circumstances that went along with it.

But if you're going to discount or "take away" a win, then you must also do the same with a close loss...i.e. Northwestern.

You must be kidding, we scored late (18 seconds to go) to cut the margin of victory. NW pasted (outyarded, out FD'd and outscored ) us all day playing their 2nd string QB much of the way. And, they did it in Lincoln...hard to say how bad they stomp us at NW.
 
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You must be kidding, we scored lated to cut the margin of victory. NW pasted us alll day playing their 2nd string QB much of the way. And, they did it in Lincoln.

They scored late too- at 1:18 remaining. We scored with :18 remaining. It was a one-score game throughout- no pasting going on. Also, Colter was better than Persa this year, all year.
 
They scored late too- at 1:18 remaining. We scored with :18 remaining. It was a one-score game throughout- no pasting going on. Also, Colter was better than Persa this year, all year.

Yes, but they drove when they needed to to put the game away. Had a 7 minute, 13 play, 66 yard drive. Our late score was pretty much given to us as we had no chance to win.
 
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Yes, but they drove when they needed to to put the game away. Our late score was pretty much given to us as we had no chance to win.

True. But if Rex hadn't fumbled at the 5-yard line- how often does that happen?- it's a different game.

I was impressed they scored when the needed to... at the end.
 
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