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Myocarditis concerns at the heart of CFB discussions

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Myocarditis concerns at the heart of CFB discussion

The report suggests that the incident rate is low, but obviously causing concern for conference officials.

He acknowledges that the cases in athletes with COVID-related heart impacts are very small. Among professional, college and youth league athletes, he’s seen no more than a dozen in the US. However, there are likely many more. Some go undetected or have not been brought to his attention. Doctors aren’t exactly sure how common the condition is.
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Martinez is recommending a three-level screening for all COVID-19 positives to return to activity: an EKG, an echocardiogram and a troponin blood test, which measures the level of cardiac-specific troponin in the blood to help detect heart injury. Each blood test and EKG can roughly cost about $50, Martinez says. The more intrusive echocardiogram can run as high as $500 per test. “It can be done. You can play football,” he says, “but resources must be utilized.”
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It makes sense that the MAC would cancel the season because they can’t afford the additional cost of these protocols. The P5 conferences can afford it. Stay tuned to see what conference leaders decide to do.
 

More on potential cardiac issues in athletes - Washington Post

Some doctors are suggesting that athletes limit activity for 3 months after contracting the virus. That obviously would put athletes who tested positive out for the season. It also explains why some athletes would opt out, especially college athletes who are going to get drafted soon.

I’m still in favor of giving players and programs the choice to play if they want. Accepting any risk should be up to individuals and their families, IMO. Obviously all protocols should be respected and players should take it seriously.

In the military, all three components which includes roughly 2 million members, we’ve had a total of 4 COVID deaths, but I haven’t seen or heard any data on cardiovascular issues. Hopefully more study is forthcoming as that’s a fairly good comparison population for athletes.
 
huskrthill said:
Myocarditis can occur with other viral infections.

Unfortunate things sometimes happen to people. That has always been true. There seems to be a movement afoot to eliminate all risk from all activities. That's not possible, and it sounds like an awful way to live life.
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I don’t disagree with you. One of the articles noted previous cases of myocarditis in athletes. I’m posting this because it appears to be one of the major hurdles, especially for Group of Five and lower level conferences. They can’t afford the protocols. Power Five programs can.

And I agree. There is risk in any activity. I’m a strong proponent of letting individuals accept what risks they wish to accept. It should be up to players and their families if they want to play or not. Those who want to play should be allowed to assume the risk and play, imo. Demanding reasonable safety protocols also seems fair, imo.
 



David3464 said:
I haven't seen this happen with the MLB team players that have tested positive. They go back to playing after the 10-14 day quarantine.
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There is one MLB starting pitcher out for the season because of it. All the reporting I’ve read on it is that the incident rate is very, very low. But it does happen. At the same time, it can be monitored as the article points out. To me, this is the reality of living in a world with this virus. It doesn’t mean we stop living life because of it. It doesn’t mean that we stop giving people the opportunity to choose how they want to live their lives, or what risks they are willing to accept.
 




RedSaidTed said:
There is one MLB starting pitcher out for the season because of it. All the reporting I’ve read on it is that the incident rate is very, very low. But it does happen. At the same time, it can be monitored as the article points out. To me, this is the reality of living in a world with this virus. It doesn’t mean we stop living life because of it. It doesn’t mean that we stop giving people the opportunity to choose how they want to live their lives, or what risks they are willing to accept.
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I think two major differences with this particular virus and how to plan around it are the unknowns and the fact that it has the center stage in news cycles.

It is known that its effects are systemic and include virtually all organ systems causing known long term damage in some people while unknown damage in others could also be occurring. There are documented cases of completely asymptomatic patients with lesions noted radiographically (i.e. ground glass lesions noted in the lungs)
 
We, as a society, have not yet reached the point where we can accept that COVID-19 is a permanent part of our existence. When we do, and it will be the general population not people in authority, normal life will proceed. To be sure there will be permanent changes in how we live life, but after awhile, we adapt, accept the risk, and choose life instead of hiding in a cave. Those in authority will have to adapt to the majority, as we will eventually ignore their restrictions.
 



David3464 said:
I haven't seen this happen with the MLB team players that have tested positive. They go back to playing after the 10-14 day quarantine.
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This is something that they are just figuring out. I think there were two observational studies for people who had recovered from COVID-19 with medium symptoms (pretty rare to begin with) that said that MOST of them had observable heart issues 3 months after recovery.

We are still so early on in this thing that 6 and 12 months later isn't something we have been able to observe. And isn't that fun and scary. I get that people want to go back to normal or something like it - I do too. Would be nice to know the risks before we accept them as part of life, but I guess accepting that we can't know all the risks is part of life as well.
 
lincoln84 said:
The STL Cardinals haven’t played since July 29. Their series this week canceled also. No bueno.
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That is because they are stupid and they have continued to infect each other ... going to a casino for someone who is in a semi-bubble is about as irresponsible of a behavior as can be. Has nothing to do with anything else.

Teams that have had infections - Miami, Philadelphia ... have resumed playing.
 

Burrhall said:
We, as a society, have not yet reached the point where we can accept that COVID-19 is a permanent part of our existence. When we do, and it will be the general population not people in authority, normal life will proceed. To be sure there will be permanent changes in how we live life, but after awhile, we adapt, accept the risk, and choose life instead of hiding in a cave. Those in authority will have to adapt to the majority, as we will eventually ignore their restrictions.
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I think the majority of society has accepted it ... go to the beaches, or downtown bars, or shopping malls, or restaurants ... in fact some of the behavior is probably over the edge but the majority of people have accepted it.

The problem is people in authority have not yet been pressured enough to do so and are proceeding with an over-abundance of caution.
 
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