Uhhh, I didn't mention Watson, Callahan, or Solich in my post. I don't know where you got that.:confused:
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Uhhh, I didn't mention Watson, Callahan, or Solich in my post. I don't know where you got that.:confused:
If that wasn't your implication with this....
then I apologize. The Solich bit was more of a generaliztion as you see that type of stuff on here a lot it seems.
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Some other stats to chew on.
3 turnovers (13 total fumbles lost this season so far...leads the nation)
3-14 on third down (0-1 on 4th)
8 penalties...many of them absolutely crucial...yes, some are worse than others.
3 sacks and 6 tackles for loss (USC was talking about 8 yesterday but I only count six on the stat sheet)
These are all drive killing issues and the reason why you rack up 550 yards and win by only 1 point...1 foot. And none of this is new...it's an ongoing issue. The OL has been very good at times. But their breakdowns are so frequent and so predictable and quite often drive killing that you cannot be happy with the offensive line play. The only people that are are people that will never...ever...criticize Barney Cotton. It's not just the "PPO lovers"...it's every commentator out there. OL and DL are constantly brought up as the major issues with this team. So don't take my word for it. Take everyone else's.
3 turnovers (13 total fumbles lost this season so far...leads the nation)
3-14 on third down (0-1 on 4th)
8 penalties...many of them absolutely crucial...yes, some are worse than others.
3 sacks and 6 tackles for loss (USC was talking about 8 yesterday but I only count six on the stat sheet)
These are all drive killing issues and the reason why you rack up 550 yards and win by only 1 point...1 foot. And none of this is new...it's an ongoing issue. The OL has been very good at times. But their breakdowns are so frequent and so predictable and quite often drive killing that you cannot be happy with the offensive line play. The only people that are are people that will never...ever...criticize Barney Cotton. It's not just the "PPO lovers"...it's every commentator out there. OL and DL are constantly brought up as the major issues with this team. So don't take my word for it. Take everyone else's.
Well, a week ago we were leading the conference in 4th down conversions, and were 2nd in 3rd down conversions. Even with a rough week in 3rd downs, we are still converting 45%, which puts us 35th nationally. Oregon and Alabama are converting 47% and 46%, respectively.
There are certainly some breakdowns at times in the OL, but not as many as people are wanting to hang on them.
I'm more concerned with our short-yardage offense.
It's obvious that we're not traditional power offense. We run best out of the shotgun after spreading the defense out. Yet, on 3rd and 1, we tend to revert to the I-Formation...where we just aren't that good at.
I am a member of the "Barney must go" club. I feel our 6th ranked rushing attack is a bit misleading. I say this because there are very few teams that run the ball anymore. So many spread offenses that use the short passing game as a running game. High percentage completions that pick up a few yards. I have two reasons for wanting a new O line coach.
First, is the lack of recruiting from Barney. He covers Nebraska and handles the walk on program. These are the kids he builds a bond with, so is it any wonder why we seem to have developed so many walk on lineman? I applaud his "doing things the Nebraska way" mentality. It works for that group. Imagine if he hit the road and recruited the 4 and 5 star offensive lineman and built that same relationship with them. Maybe he would picked up on the issues with Tyler Moore earlier and the whole mess could have been avoided. I don't think Tyler or his family handled things the best way, either, but Barney should have been first to know how he was feeling. I realize that Barney went on the road to Memphis last week to visit Christian Morris. Hopefully, we are able to secure his signature on Signing day!!
Second, he has had the position for 5 years. All our other coaches are newer to their position. We should have seen more progress with short yardage blocking and pass protection. Other position coaches have made drastic improvements over what was here under Callahan. I understand there have been injuries and our strength program is questionable when it comes to linemen. Isn't it logical also, that the O line coach would teach blocking for kick and punt returns? We have had some good returns, but most of them are due to the amazing skills of our speed players. I agree the line has been better this year. However, does that credit go to Barney or to Garrison? If it is Garrison teaching fundamental techniques, let him be the man. Maybe it is a combination of both. I just get the feeling that time has passed Barney by.
Just my :2cents:
First, is the lack of recruiting from Barney. He covers Nebraska and handles the walk on program. These are the kids he builds a bond with, so is it any wonder why we seem to have developed so many walk on lineman? I applaud his "doing things the Nebraska way" mentality. It works for that group. Imagine if he hit the road and recruited the 4 and 5 star offensive lineman and built that same relationship with them. Maybe he would picked up on the issues with Tyler Moore earlier and the whole mess could have been avoided. I don't think Tyler or his family handled things the best way, either, but Barney should have been first to know how he was feeling. I realize that Barney went on the road to Memphis last week to visit Christian Morris. Hopefully, we are able to secure his signature on Signing day!!
Second, he has had the position for 5 years. All our other coaches are newer to their position. We should have seen more progress with short yardage blocking and pass protection. Other position coaches have made drastic improvements over what was here under Callahan. I understand there have been injuries and our strength program is questionable when it comes to linemen. Isn't it logical also, that the O line coach would teach blocking for kick and punt returns? We have had some good returns, but most of them are due to the amazing skills of our speed players. I agree the line has been better this year. However, does that credit go to Barney or to Garrison? If it is Garrison teaching fundamental techniques, let him be the man. Maybe it is a combination of both. I just get the feeling that time has passed Barney by.
Just my :2cents:
Great post FLAS. I would like to suggest the trolls, bitchers/whiners and agenda toadies that seem to be out in force since the NW WIN print off this post by FLAS and stick it......
Just some food for thought, Oregon has the 5th ranked rushing attack, Ohio State has the 8th ranked, FSU has the 11th ranked, LSU has teh 15th ranked, and KSU has the 18th ranked. NU slipped down to #10 this week. As far as passing, only TT and FSU are in the BCS top 15 and have a top 20 passing attack in the country.
Disclaimer, those rankings are off straight yards gained on the season, and not yards per game.
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*snap*
but realistically, yes that helps. When WR's are making catches and extending drives, rather than dropping half the passes, it makes a huge difference. Pretty much our entire offense improved from last year...except Rex's knee.
This is the stance I don't get. Two OL coaches, one very experienced and an ex-OC. The other barely out of the GA ranks. One is thought to be incompetent and blamed for any issue, whether it is the OL or not, and the other is somehow solely responsible for all success? This is EXACTLY the kind of crap I expected to hear once we started seeing our OL performance on the rise.
All credit/blame should go equally to both of them....and it's mostly credit at this point. Garrison's line earlier the season is that if you have a problem with Barney, you also have a problem with me.
uhhh, OL coaches don't coach the punt/kick return teams.
the last rumor I saw, not substantiated yet that I know of, is that Tyler Moore is going to be a daddy. Not sure how Barney Cotton could have seen that coming unless he was in Florida trying to set up a franchise.
barney was just out in Kc and memphis during the bye week. He doesn't exclusively recruit Nebraska, and Jamrog is actually in charge of the walk-on program.
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You're right, they should share the credit and the blame. The line has improved the last two years since Garrison's arrival and they sucked the three years prior to his arrival.
It seems like we've been saying that for awhile now.
That was a irresponsible rumor and it was retracted by the one who did the most to spread it.
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There are 17 statistics listed and if you add up our rankings, they total 717. If you divide 717 by 17, you get an average ranking of 42nd. I think I'd rather spit that out than chew on it...we can do better.
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