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New NCAA Subdivision Coming?- Schools Paying Players

Scrollsker said:
I feel like it won't happen if the bowling team (just for example) gets paid out the same as the football players. I believe you will see some schools get in serious financial trouble or will begin to challenge the need to carry multiple sports regardless of male or female involvement. Throw in added cost of travel now due to coast to coast coverage of the conference and this may get out of hand quickly. The value of the scholarship MUST be applied, it's a joke to get all the benefits for the student portion of "student/athlete" and claim it holds no value to the athlete.

IF they even the playing field to regulate total amounts players can receive to a consistent amount across the board for football, it can work. I always thought the point in the beginning for NIL was for the player to make money on the side for themselves, not to hold schools hostage if the school cannot come up with perceived/estimated value of a specific player. This doesn't even take into account not playing a snap after getting injured or transferring within a year after getting the deal.
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As long as they remain apart of the NCAA and the same umbrella as the rest of college athletics, college football will be tied monetarily to every other college sport. The legality of Title IX makes it virtually impossible to not provide the same thing to women's sports as you do men's, and in turn treat all sports equally.

As I outlined, I think this will end up hurting the star football players the most. I'm not sure what type of money the average D-I college player brings in, but I'd have to assume it isn't higher than the $30k that is outlined in this proposal (I could be wrong). This means it would benefit most athletes and would likely benefit the schools. It isn't a capitalistic approach, but it might be the solution that provides the most stability. I'm not sure.
 

HuttoHusker said:
It didn't change it, it flat out ruined it IMO.
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I hear this a bunch...but what exactly has been ruined?

2023 provided some great college football in the U.S.. Several great teams, lots of great players....what is the issue?

It seems for some college football is only good when the players are being fully exploited...I do not get it?
 



Speedlimit said:
I hear this a bunch...but what exactly has been ruined?

2023 provided some great college football in the U.S.. Several great teams, lots of great players....what is the issue?

It seems for some college football is only good when the players are being fully exploited...I do not get it?
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give it time, like I have mentioned, and money always proves this out, corruption will over take it. Anyone that thinks young kids dealing with millions will not be corrupted is in Lala land
 
There is a lot there. I’m sure much can be worked out. On the surface I wonder how they can limit NIL from other sources when that’s exactly what SCOTUS said they couldn’t do.

2nd this only works if the power 5(4) agree. It cost them money they don’t pay now. The disguise is more control. They can gain that same control by breaking away from the NCAA.

Not sure if I buy the excuse of protection from litigation being under the NCAA umbrella. They can simply redistribute their present costs to another legislative governing body and fund that instead of funding the NCAA.
 
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I don’t fully understand all of this, but it looks like an uncertain future for college football with a lot of money at stake. I’m thankful that we just gave Trev a bump because he is exactly the right leader to guide us through the coming turmoil. He is shrewd, resourceful and he cares about Husker football.
 
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Cornhuskers7 said:
Yes, the way I've read it, if you have $3 million allocated for all the male athletes, you have to have the same amount for women's.
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I believe Title 9 specifies equal opportunity for both.Generally this has been interpreted as same # of scholarships for each. Which is why the large size of Football rosters creates challenges.I am not an attorney but would think athletes would have to have the opportunity to receive the same $ to be in compliance. That is not to say payout would have to be the same across all sports and athletes but the opportunity to earn has to be there. Not all athletes in minor sports receive full scholarships it is common to have 1/2 or 1/4 scholars would think this same formula would be in effect.
 




Hville said:
There is a lot there. I’m sure much can be worked out. On the surface I wonder how they can limit NIL from other sources when that’s exactly what SCOTUS said they couldn’t do.

2nd this only works if the power 5(4) agree. It cost them money they don’t pay now. The disguise is more control. They can gain that same control by breaking away from the NCAA.

Not sure if I buy the excuse of protection from litigation being under the NCAA umbrella. They can simply redistribute their present costs to another legislative governing body and fund that instead of funding the NCAA.
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You would almost have to have some type of negotiated contract with the athletes,That is how Pro Sports are able to have Salary caps and limits.It is only legal if part of a Collectively Bargained Agreement. You would need some type of Union or Association of the athlete,Or Congressional action to implement An AntiTrust exemption such as MLB enjoyed for years.
 
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Cvillehusker said:
Has to be equal access for both Male and Female sports.
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That's why I think this will ultimately fail, but is a likely starting point. The lawsuits started because of how much football brings in and at the same time disallowing the players to make money off their own name. To cap it at 30k seems as though they're opening the door for a Pro-like bargaining agreement. The cap saves money overall, but I still do not believe most D-I schools can all of a sudden afford to shell out 30k per student athlete just to keep their football aspirations afloat. Once this passes, it means any monetary increase is applied evenly across all athletics and most schools aren't profitable enough to do that; consider Colorados University endowment and how adamant academics were about not contributing toward any athletics, even with the marketing insanity Deion brought.
 
There’s not much of a compelling reason to keep college football within the confines of the NCAA. The other sports? Maybe. Probably not men’s hoops either.

All you have to do is form a separate league with P5 schools for football and no more Title IX regulations have to be obeyed. The tricky thing is if you do this there is no real governing body for players to negotiate their contracts.
 



joncarl said:
I will always follow the Huskers, but I am losing interest quickly in watching college football in general. Not saying the changes are good or bad, I'm just saying I just don't care to watch pro football disguised as college ball. Maybe my money would be better spent at the small NAIA school in my home town. Kids just want to play for the love of the game.
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I’m with you. Totally love the Huskers, but definitely have lost interest in the overall scheme of things. Florida State pushed me even further. I hate seeing people get screwed over. In 10 years, this sport will be unrecognizable.
 
A big piece of this puzzle is the results of the lawsuits. Legislation will be handed down to provide some kind of legal framework. There are so many ideas and questions, it is hard to figure out exactly where this current situation will end up. We are looking at a complete overhaul of college athletics as we knew it. This is going to take time to sort out.

Why not go a NFL model with a players association and a commissioner with rules and regulations. It's worked for professional sports. Maybe even something like a salary cap to maintain some sort of parity or revenue sharing like baseball? Gone are the days of playing for the pride of your school. It will be playing for a paycheck.
 

I’m not sure the issue is as bad as the dark picture being portrayed. Going to a system such as this just seems like another socialist avenue of creating paths to share the revenue that another persons NIL has been awarded to him. Pretty sure this won’t pass the SCOTUS test and it shouldn’t.

It is obviously going to cause some schools to separate. Not the haves from the havenots. But from the “want”to the “not want too”. Most colleges in FBS can financially make it at this level, even with Nil and Transfer portal if they CHOOSE to invest into the infrastructure and the programs. Almost every school has an Alumni base to contribute. It’s just not as a high a priority for them.

It’s likely leading to separation for the ones that choose too. Quite frankly there are lower producing programs feeding off higher producing programs and still getting their share of the pie. Maybe it’s time to get away from Michigan against western Michigan games and get more Nebraska versus Mississippi games.
 
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