Multi-year starter, despite injuries. A mountainous DT who could dunk a basketball. What about him?What about Doug Herrmann?
Multi-year starter, despite injuries. A mountainous DT who could dunk a basketball. What about him?What about Doug Herrmann?
Boy, I don't remember him starting. If he did, I find it hard to believe it was often, let alone multi-year. I remember him primarily as a late in the game guy who played in a lot of routes early in his career, who earned more PT as a senior -- Turner Gill years. But, our defenses weren't much to brag about back then (until 84), so maybe he got more PT/starts than I remember.Multi-year starter, despite injuries. A mountainous DT who could dunk a basketball. What about him?
You are right and wrong in your post.Here's what I see: You liked this kid, and Nebraska didn't recruit him as hard, and now you're upset with everyone else for being impressed with Hutmacher. Looking for something to criticize, you decided that his being from South Dakota was what you'd latch onto. Then my response. Then the backpedal. Now it matters that the Iowa staff wanted your guy, which has nothing to do with Hutmacher (who crossed over Iowa early on, by the way). Hey, Iowa wanted Riley Reiff and Chad Greenway, right? So they must know something, right? Except those guys were from South Dakota, which is a guppy pond ... compared to Iowa.... [to be continued]
The beautiful thing about these sorts of disagreements is that we'll have an answer in roughly 4 years.
And we should never ignore or take for granted the good football players in our immediate foot print. We can all look to the past and talk about all the great teams DONU had back in the day that were made up primarily of under recruitied and walk on players with a couple game changers thrown in but them days are over. Today that gets you 8-5/7-6 with the occasional 9-4/10-3. The top teams year in year out are made up of 4/5 star players with some 3 star players who were developed sprinkled in.A good football player is a good player no matter where he hails from.
This sounds good. Since you have claimed to know a "reliable source" in reference to this kid. I am going to guess that you have some kind of relationship with the family or coach. Otherwise why take it so personally. You never know what a kid thinks, you never know what one kid thinks is aggressive recruiting another thinks is slow playing. I do recall Scott saying he was holding off on DL offers until the new DL coach was in place. That is smart from a perspective of both the kid and the coach. If the kid commits prior to the new coach and the new coach does not like him. It creates bad optics when you have to pull the offer. If the kid does not have a good relationship with the new coach then he ends up having to decide whether to decommitt. IMHO you are WAY off on this one. The coaches handled it the right way. If we lose a kid, even a super star potential kid, doing it right. Than I am ok with it. A recruiting reputation is built on more than one kid. These coaches have a reputation for doing what is right for the kid and the team. In this case they did both. If you do not see that. My friend that is on you, not the coaches. You are crying over spilled milk here.And we should never ignore or take for granted the good football players in our immediate foot print. We can all look to the past and talk about all the great teams DONU had back in the day that were made up primarily of under recruitied and walk on players with a couple game changers thrown in but them days are over. Today that gets you 8-5/7-6 with the occasional 9-4/10-3. The top teams year in year out are made up of 4/5 star players with some 3 star players who were developed sprinkled in.
He’s a metro area kid and we can’t let the best athletes go away anymore with out putting up a fight. If he lived 3 miles further west then where he does now I wouldn’t be the only upset about thisThis sounds good. Since you have claimed to know a "reliable source" in reference to this kid. I am going to guess that you have some kind of relationship with the family or coach. Otherwise why take it so personally. You never know what a kid thinks, you never know what one kid thinks is aggressive recruiting another thinks is slow playing. I do recall Scott saying he was holding off on DL offers until the new DL coach was in place. That is smart from a perspective of both the kid and the coach. If the kid commits prior to the new coach and the new coach does not like him. It creates bad optics when you have to pull the offer. If the kid does not have a good relationship with the new coach then he ends up having to decide whether to decommitt. IMHO you are WAY off on this one. The coaches handled it the right way. If we lose a kid, even a super star potential kid, doing it right. Than I am ok with it. A recruiting reputation is built on more than one kid. These coaches have a reputation for doing what is right for the kid and the team. In this case they did both. If you do not see that. My friend that is on you, not the coaches. You are crying over spilled milk here.
He’s a metro area kid and we can’t let the best athletes go away anymore with out putting up a fight. If he lived 3 miles further west then where he does now I wouldn’t be the only upset about this
I guess I don't see why him being a metro kid makes him any better of a player. Maybe played against a little better competition than some other instate kid but someone from lets say Sidney could be just as good athletically as someone from Omaha.He’s a metro area kid and we can’t let the best athletes go away anymore with out putting up a fight. If he lived 3 miles further west then where he does now I wouldn’t be the only upset about this
Exactly. So desperate to win this fight that now he is disagreeing with himself.Sounds like NU did put up a fight, although circumstances dictated that it was too late. Not sure what more could be done if the player says he is shutting down his recruitment and won't listen to other schools. As you said yourself, he wasn't open to flipping, despite NU continuing to try.
It's a lot harder to find write-ups from the early 80s than I would have thought. He began the '82 season as the starting Right DT (keep in mind they were running a 5-man front), but he twisted his knee in practice the week before the Penn State game, which caused him to miss that game and bothered him off and on afterwards for a long, long time. I can't find anything in print that says that, but--not remembering what I just wrote about him being hurt before the Penn State game--I looked up that game on YouTube to see who were the DTs introduced as starting. If you go to the 5:07 mark, they're listing the D-line starters, and the announcer says that Herrman had twisted his knee that week and wouldn't be playing. Here's that video:Boy, I don't remember him starting. If he did, I find it hard to believe it was often, let alone multi-year. I remember him primarily as a late in the game guy who played in a lot of routes early in his career, who earned more PT as a senior -- Turner Gill years. But, our defenses weren't much to brag about back then (until 84), so maybe he got more PT/starts than I remember.
I was in Vermillion at that time, and there were concerns about him being so hot-headed. Nebraska did due diligence in checking him out, but it probably didn't help his cause when the week that a coach came through he had just received multiple technical fouls in the prior week's basketball games for blowing up at refs, etc. Fwiw, he grew up, matured, and calmed down, but that wasn't a "miss" so much as a risk that they didn't want to take.I always wished Ben Leber had played for Nebraska instead of Kansas State. Was an absolute beast out of Vermillion.