Why would Moos be gone? Unless he refuses to make a move, in the event of a catastrophic season.
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Finebaum: Frost squarely on the hot seat
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It would be hard to bring in any new assistants worth a damn if the head coach might get fired in a year. Probably too late for that.
hell yes. he has had three top 25 recruiting classes. It's fair to say he hasn't done much with them.
my point is we will be lucky to secure a top 50 class this year if HCSF produces another stinker of a season. No one is buying his I know what I am doing anymore as his credibility is in short supply. He needs to show us.
While I think SF is on a hot seat, I am naturally inclined to disagree with anything that over the hill, pencil neck dork says regarding any physical activity.
100%. 2nd to last sentence is where it all lies. It’s the only way they get better. Even Alabama couldn’t overcome miscues at Nebraska’s rate, they’d have at least 2-3 losses playing that sloppy. Difference is, Saban won’t tolerate that type of play.
I’m as big of Frost fan as there is, really want him to do well and win. And I’ve been wrong on him so far. That said, you can’t live under a rock either and ignore what’s happened so far under him. It’s a results business, and another losing season would be a hard sell. I have a hunch that NU will turn a corner and make a bowl game.
Elephant ears.
Though I don't like the message, it's hard to disagree with it.
But I agree, it's hard to disagree with it.
Say what you want about Finebaum, but he's not with any of this.
I dunno, I keep thinking we've hit rock-bottom, but I'm wondering now if we aren't going to remain in this bottom-quartile-of-the-P5 for a while longer. There's zero confidence in Nebraska nationally. Probably even considerably less confidence in Nebraska than Tennessee. In positive news: I'm reasonably sure I'll be able to get season tickets this year or next and I can start a new generation of little Husker fans.
100% better, and we aren't going 5-7.
Illinois, Fordham, Buffalo, Michigan State, Purdue would all be locks at 100% better.
Then you'd only need one more win to make a bowl game out of Northwestern, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan (especially those first three listed). If we couldn't get one more from that group, I'd debate we aren't 100% better.
6 wins is not asking too much. And I'd personally be fine with 6 wins, a bowl game, and Frost is back in 2022.
Regarding ultimatums, it was Moos who said this only three weeks ago:
“It’d be great to get into that 8-9 wins, to start getting back into the picture of conference championships and talking about more postseason. And I think in Year 4, for Scott Frost, that’s a realistic expectation.”
Moos thinks 8 or 9 wins 'realistic' goal for NU
LINCOLN — The schedule is tough. Nebraska’s recent track record, even against Big Ten bottom-feeder Illinois, has not been good. And Husker football hasn’t had a winning record since 2016.
I don't even think 8-9 wins is a realistic expectation. 6-7 wins is, however.
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100% better, and we aren't going 5-7.
Illinois, Fordham, Buffalo, Michigan State, Purdue would all be locks at 100% better.
Then you'd only need one more win to make a bowl game out of Northwestern, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan (especially those first three listed). If we couldn't get one more from that group, I'd debate we aren't 100% better.
6 wins is not asking too much. And I'd personally be fine with 6 wins, a bowl game, and Frost is back in 2022.
Regarding ultimatums, it was Moos who said this only three weeks ago:
“It’d be great to get into that 8-9 wins, to start getting back into the picture of conference championships and talking about more postseason. And I think in Year 4, for Scott Frost, that’s a realistic expectation.”
Moos thinks 8 or 9 wins 'realistic' goal for NU
LINCOLN — The schedule is tough. Nebraska’s recent track record, even against Big Ten bottom-feeder Illinois, has not been good. And Husker football hasn’t had a winning record since 2016.omaha.com
I don't even think 8-9 wins is a realistic expectation. 6-7 wins is, however.
Yes I'm aware of what Moos said. And while you took my post literally, there is absolutely a way they could be significantly better than last year and be 5-7. Balls bounce in funny ways. I don't think it's probable, but it's possible.
“I don’t think they can (get back to what they once were). I did when (Frost) got there because, to me, he was the coach of the future,” Feinbaum explained.
I know it doesn't fit the anti-Finebaum narrative on this site, but he's been pretty consistent admitting that he thought Frost would bring the Big Red back to relevancy.
Well, I took your post as you were looking for a way they could fall short of a bowl game. Because you know -- the ball bounces funny ways -- and maybe if it bounces the right way they win 7-8 games. But by choosing the route of it bouncing the wrong way, you've created a scenario of excusing a losing season.
I'm not interested in taking that into the equation. The ball bounces funny, okay. Truth is, if there's a 4th straight losing season under Frost, it wasn't because we just got unlucky.
I don't think I'm being even remotely unfair by suggesting if Frost -- or any coach -- can't get a winning season within four seasons at Nebraska, he's failed. For that matter, there isn't a single Husker fan on this planet who would have said upon his hiring that 6 wins is probably good enough in year four. But it is -- that in itself is depressing to admit.
Good lord man. All I said is I hate ultimatums as far as win totals. Sorry that my support of Scott Frost has led to this.
Frost is his coach. If DONU dosent show improvement meaning bowl game in my mind Moos will be gone new AD hired and they will bring in their coach. We have been down this road before. Looking from the outside in Moos is not the problem he has done very good things while here but will be a sacrificial lamb to get a different coach in..
It's late, so I apologize if I ramble a bit...
Like him or not, Finebaus's only the messenger. This program is in deep doo-doo and will languish in mediocrity for 50 more years if Moos and Frost don't get it turned around PDQ. And I'm not exaggerating (much.) It's historical fact that most dynasties don't survive forever. Army, Minnesota, Notre Dame, USC, Miami... Yes, some teams like Alabama, Oklahoma recycle every decade or so, and as such it seems the gap between the haves and the have-nots is getting wider and it's becoming more and more apparent that the "haves" will enjoy a more and more permanent place in the heirarchy of relevant and irrelevant teams. With the landscape of college football changing significantly, NU needs to ensure its it's in with the "haves" but that's not going to happen without a quick turnaround.
The longer the losing continues the harder it will be to start winning. Frost's grace period is over, IMO. That doesn't mean he has to win a B1G title, but his teams needs to start showing significant improvement now, as in game 1 v. Illinois. I agree that doesn't necessarily mean making a bowl game, but geez, when there's so many of them they have to wave the winning record rule to get enough teams to play them, there's really no excuse if NU has another season end on Black Friday.
Like him or not, Finebaus's only the messenger. This program is in deep doo-doo and will languish in mediocrity for 50 more years if Moos and Frost don't get it turned around PDQ. And I'm not exaggerating (much.) It's historical fact that most dynasties don't survive forever. Army, Minnesota, Notre Dame, USC, Miami... Yes, some teams like Alabama, Oklahoma recycle every decade or so, and as such it seems the gap between the haves and the have-nots is getting wider and it's becoming more and more apparent that the "haves" will enjoy a more and more permanent place in the heirarchy of relevant and irrelevant teams. With the landscape of college football changing significantly, NU needs to ensure its it's in with the "haves" but that's not going to happen without a quick turnaround.
The longer the losing continues the harder it will be to start winning. Frost's grace period is over, IMO. That doesn't mean he has to win a B1G title, but his teams needs to start showing significant improvement now, as in game 1 v. Illinois. I agree that doesn't necessarily mean making a bowl game, but geez, when there's so many of them they have to wave the winning record rule to get enough teams to play them, there's really no excuse if NU has another season end on Black Friday.
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