Well my friend I sure you're right about nowhere to go but up. You're familar with Murphy's Law but perhaps not O'Dough's Law which states Murphy was an optimist.
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I think having Cerni available in 2021 will go a long way.Well my friend I sure you're right about nowhere to go but up. You're familar with Murphy's Law but perhaps not O'Dough's Law which states Murphy was an optimist.
We agree on this. I guess I’m okay with a full time coach being assigned ST coordinator, but I think it’s important enough to have a full time dedicated coordinator. Like you said, as bad as we’ve been on special teams the status quo strategy seems irresponsible and I’m surprised Frost hasn’t made the change yet. He did say he is considering it, so I guess there’s still time for him to make the change.
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I'm cool with that. I just don't know what the shuffle would be to get a fully dedicated guy. I just think Frost has basically said that he's not making staff changes, so I think a full-time guy is gonna get the title.
Right. That would likely only happen if Lubick takes the Montana HC job and Frost has to reshuffle. If there are no staff changes the best we can hope for is that a current full time coach is designated ST coordinator. That would be a step in the right direction I guess.
Conversely, I wonder how many B1G teams have a dedicated QB coach?
I think the team could benefit from a dedicated ST coach, WR coach, and OC. There in lies the issue — we need more coaches than we’re allowed (and that every other team gets by with what they are allowed should be causing alarms to go off).
I don’t see Verduzco interact much with the QBs on game day. They generally seem to talk to Frost (obviously I don’t see everything). So moving Verduzco to an analyst seems easy. I’d think the QB would have more interaction with the OC on game day anyway. That would get us one more coach.
I used to like the idea of the HC being either OC or DC, and if that could be done, that gives us another coaching spot free. However, after the last three years, I think Frost should be more of a CEO and give up any/all OC duties.
Thus we are where we are (12-20). The fact that this conversation comes up so much is a sign to me that we don’t have the right mix of coaches and something should have been done. That ship has sailed.
I don’t see Verduzco interact much with the QBs on game day. They generally seem to talk to Frost (obviously I don’t see everything). So moving Verduzco to an analyst seems easy. I’d think the QB would have more interaction with the OC on game day anyway. That would get us one more coach.
I used to like the idea of the HC being either OC or DC, and if that could be done, that gives us another coaching spot free. However, after the last three years, I think Frost should be more of a CEO and give up any/all OC duties.
Thus we are where we are (12-20). The fact that this conversation comes up so much is a sign to me that we don’t have the right mix of coaches and something should have been done. That ship has sailed.
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Are people upset we have one of those? Every team in the B1G has one, and most of them are the Offensive Coordinator. That's a pretty important position.
I think what he's asking is do any other teams have just a QB coach who is not assigned any other duties like being OC.
In the Big Ten
Iowa, Ohio State, and Wisconsin have just a dedicated QB coach
The other 10 have an OC or Co-OC act as QB coach (that's with Lovie''s staff at Illinois not BB's).
And I agree you have to have someone be in charge of that position, much like special teams.
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Frost is definitely familiar. But Helfrich definitely took shots at him once he left Oregon. And if we are spinning moving away from needing Wan'Dale Robinsons and Deanthony Thomas' as good things so we can be more who we want to be, is hiring Helfrich the right call anyway?
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Quick question about Helfrich, I know when he was OC under Kelly, that Kelly called the plays. Did Helfrich do the same with Frost or did Frost run the whole show as OC? I think if Lubick moves on, Helfrich would be a good hire.
Why do we have technically three linebacker coaches (Chins, Ruud, Dawson)? Why do we waste a spot on just a QB coach? IF Lubick does leave, you have to jettison Verduzco to an analyst at least and bring in an OC that can work with the QB's. Frost can work with the WR's like at Oregon and help with the QB's (chemistry). Then bring Sean Snyder closer to home with an offer he cannot refuse. I think being closer to his father would go a long way if the title and money was right.
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I guess that's my biggest gripe. Having a separate OC, a separate QB coach, a separate TE coach and then the HC is the offensive genius to boot. If the offense was humming by now and Verdu seemed to be bringing some major value in development, it would be fine. Just seems like the juice isn't worth the squeeze when ST is such a dumpster fire and we have some duplication on the offensive side of the ball.
But maybe nobody will come since the Huskers are struggling so bad? I don't know. Just another place where Frost kind of painted himself into a corner and now he's committed/stuck.
