I know it wasn't part of the question, but I was always a Wilson Thomas fan and always wondered what he would have done playing in an offense that threw the ball more.
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There's a lot of dudes that it gets tough due to the offenses. For example, Ameer Abdullah is a beast in todays game, but is he beating out Ahman Green or Lawrence Phillips for a spot on the all-time team? Probably depends what era. There's very few guys that could just insert themselves no matter what year they are playing so then it gets into so much subjectivity.
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That guy was real good, and way faster than people gave him credit for.
Staying off the "is JD overrated" topic, but now we are considering DO one of the greatest RBs at NU?? Just because he had a good year on a not so good team doesn't mean he was an all time great. Whether he was drafted or not, and he wasn't for a reason, doesn't mean NU wouldn't have liked to have him back, but it does preclude us from having a discussion anywhere close to "greatest" at NU.
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Are you considering Ozigbo one of the greatest RBs at NU? That's an awful take as well. I'd take that one back if I were you.
Haha, glad someone appreciates it.
Also now feeling depressed that Johnny Mitchell was over 25 years ago...
I’m just happy someone else has an awful take. Ozigbo was good for that last half of the season. Definitely not an all time great.
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At all. Definitely could have used him in 2019, and would have like to see if Held would have continued his progression for another year.
Two guys I wish were around in this era that I think would have been awesome were Jon Bostic and Matt Herian.
Herian had his injury issues, but when he was healthy he was an offensive threat. They'd look real good in this offense.
YOU are the one who brought up DO in a thread defending JD as an all-time great. You used DO as an example that not getting drafted to the NFL wouldn't indicate JD wasn't great. That is an absurd argument to state that DO wasn't drafted either so......? I was pointing out how off base you were. Good gosh, you really can spot when something doesn't make sense in someone else's posts.
I have nothing to take back, as i never stated he was. In fact, i stated the opposite.
This whole thread has been absurd
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If you can let me know where I stated JD or DO was an all-time great, i'd really appreciate it. Sometimes people are a little slower in the comprehension so i'll go over how Ozigbo got brought up for you one more time, try pausing between words to help you digest what is being said:
JD was brought up as being "overrated" or not a big loss and one of the reasons was due to where he would be drafted (not an argument made by me). I brought up Morgan and Ozigbo as two players that didn't get drafted but we would have loved to have them in 2019 and they have been mentioned multiple times throughout this past season how great it would have been to still have them around, so draft stock means nothing at all in terms of how good someone is at Nebraska and how meaningful they are to the team. If JD doesn't come back for 2020, we will miss him just like we missed Morgan and Ozigbo.
If you got "Ozigbo is an all-time great” from that it may be time to go back to coloring books.
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The personal attacks are noted. IF you read the 15 pages of this thread, a great number of posts talk about JD being an all-time great, his place in Husker history, etc. as defense for him not being over rated. You were in effect defending his status as a Husker in history and stating that not being drafted didn't mean that was untrue. You could have picked Tommy Frazier, but you chose two bad examples. I gave a pass to Stanley Morgan's mention, but DO having one good season and using him as a defense of anything regarding quality of play or player is simply an inappropriate comparison.
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You talking about what others have said in this 15 pages, then claiming I was the one that said it is an interesting tactic.
Devine Ozigbo was voted an all-conference performer by the coaches and the media in 2018. No issue using him as someone we wish we would have had another year with. Is that what you are disagreeing with? Because that was my point. Arguing anything else is you moving the goalposts.
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