Given all the offensive struggles at this point in the season, I think 7-5 is about the best outcome possible. Too many flaws on the 2019 version (Kicker, Wide Receiver, Running Back, Offensive Line play, etc.) to hope for anything better.
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6 wins and 14 losses
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So looking into the crystal ball, do you anticipate 2020 being better than 2019?
2018 better than 2020 too?
I know this is a process, but I am past ready for a steady trajectory upwards...……………
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Yes, I think Frost jumped the gun with the 2019 talk, which is fine. But our entire offense is going to return for 2020, that should pay dividends. Now, we are losing NG and we have no one to replace him, starting ILB, Ferguson and Davis (I get they aren't great but they are starting), and then hopefully keep Domann around. I am not worried about the secondary, Fisher will have them right. But our front 7 will be worse next year, which scares me.
2020 will be closer to what we were thinking when Frost got here. High scoring offense and a defense just trying to hang on.
Let's say we finish 2019 at 6-6 or 7-5 which is a 2/3 game improvement.
Its easy to say yes, 9-3 or 10-2 in 2020 but what is going to be different?
We return the entire O-Line next season ... but is that a good thing? Unless there are position changes or new candidates the only thing I see is a more experienced Center which in itself is good.
At WR, we potentially lose Speilman (to the NFL) and there is nothing but a bunch of unproven red-shirts to improve this squad.
We have a tougher schedule with more of the key games on the road (tOSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, Northwestern) plus PSU and Rutgers in lieu of Maryland and Indiana.
I'm not normally a negative nelly but I'm not sure 2020 is going to be significantly better.
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Who are the 3 wins - Indiana, Maryland and Purdue?
Wandale Robinson ... not sure where you consider him but wherever you do ... he's an upgrade.
Foster was out half a season with an injury allowing Boe Wilson to play ... arguably the O-Line (last year) improved after BW entered the starting lineup.
I am not highly optimistic about a huge turn around for 2020. I think the team needs some major Juco transfer need Oline, Dline, and LB. I think the product is not very polished and until there is a sense of a smooth flow of the program more of the same can be expected.
Big Ten Media Days: Moos on NU football team: 'We really need to get to six wins' this season
After the Nebraska football team's four-win season in 2018, Husker athletic director Bill Moos said six wins would really help the program this year because it would lead to a
Looking back on AD Moos statement that 6 wins would be good for the program, I guess he knows more about the football team's capability/status than many of us previously thought:
"We really need to get to six (wins)," he said. "We need to get into the postseason and get all those extra practices and get that recognition in college football. I know at Oregon when we started to build, we went six (wins), seven, eight, nine, 10 -- it just kind of worked out that way and the momentum just carried it.
I think we can get 6 wins, I leaning toward 7...........
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I agree. We also had a healthy kicker in 2018 in addition to the names you mentioned. Some of the coin toss games we have coming up really concern me as our lack of a kicking threat may come back to haunt us.
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lol i always forget the specialists.... our kicking game is going to cost us one for sure (or count Colorado if you want).
Really worried about this game. We are beat up as can be, and Minnesota has the momentum. Time for the 5 million dollar man to get our available talent playing where it should be.
I said 7 wins this year and I think 9 next. After that, we should be competing for B1G titles regularly.
Losing so many players when he came on board (someone said 20 4*'s left), instilling a new culture, getting everyone on the same page, new offense, new defense, etc... this was never going to be a quick turnaround, IMO.
2021 we should have a very experienced offense and a defense with more depth and some decent experience.
Even if nothing else changed, a year of experience playing together is incredibly important for entire position groups, starting with the O-line, then the WRs and QB working together, then the secondary, and then the LBs. Another year for Special Teams to work together also eliminates a lot of bad snaps, etc. You have to have a base level of talent, skill, fundamentals, etc., but it's hard to put a value on gaining a year of experience and cohesion for a team.
I can't imagine anybody who's ever played O-line at any level of football who would disagree with the idea that playing together for another year is going to lead to a lot of improvement in a lot of areas.
First, Spielman is NOT going to go pro. HIs scouting report, right now, would read that he's an oft-injured, under-sized WR with average speed. I'm glad we have him, and I'm glad that he's coming back, but he doesn't fit the profile of a draftable NFL WR.
Second, "unproven red-shirts" become great football players all of the time, everywhere, so I'm not sure why it's insignificant that we have a whole bunch of young WRs with great high school resumes and significant improvement in measurables like height and speed. Some will be hits, and some will be misses, so I'm glad that we have a bunch to use.
I mostly agree with this, but I'd point out that you're leaving out a very young Minnesota team this year will have to come to our place next year. Also, I don't think that playing at Northwestern has ever been a negative for any Nebraska team. We usually have more and louder fans than they do. Having to go to OSU, Wisconsin, and Iowa is a lot rougher.
I have no idea what you normally are, but you're putting a very negative spin, overall, on the above. If you're one of those who was expecting at least 10 wins this year and a shot at the CFP, then, yeah, you may want to temper your expectations. If you're one of those who was thinking 8 wins this year would be a good year, then, yeah, adding 1-2 more wins for 2020 seems about right.
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All good points. I do find it funny that we were applauding Frost for his roster turnover in the spring, but now it’s used as a reason we are struggling. I find it interesting that I’m being told he just needs his players, but we were better in 2018 than 2019. For all of the “how bad it was when I got here”, I promise it wasn’t much worse than what Callahan tried to create, yet Pelini won 9 games his very first year and went to the conference title game 3 of his first 5 years.
I think we have a super high ceiling with Frost here, but the year 2 development where our head coach said we would be dangerous is not very apparent to me right now.
I'm not a big fan of Frost's fluff to the fans and his players. I think he's built a bit of a mental house of cards.
We had some veteran leadership last year that we simply don't have this year due to turnover. Oz was huge last year because he made our OL look better than it was. Stanley was a freak that could get open and catch the ball. Those two were able to be leaders and produce. We don't even have a half of one of those players on starting right now (maybe Wan'dale...but a true freshman isn't going to be leading a team). This year we have AM as the "leader" but he isn't built to be a leader; it's not his personality, IMO.
I love what Fisher has done with LJ and I'm hoping another year with the same DL coach pays off for the DL. They've played well enough this year, but can we stay around that level next year? I'm less than impressed overall with the LB play. That has to get better and quickly.
I don't remember, did Bo have the roster turnover that Scott had? I'm sure there was some, but what happened over the last year was crazy, IMO. I'm not saying unnecessary as I really don't know, but we lost a lot of talented kids.
