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[Redleg]

rear guard


1. The rearmost elements of an advancing or a withdrawing force. It has the following functions: to protect the rear of a column from hostile forces; during the withdrawal, to delay the enemy; during the advance, to keep supply routes open. 2. Security detachment that a moving ground force details to the rear to keep it informed and covered.

Gee, thanks for the doctrine lesson, but SUPPLYING the rear guard is one of two things- you are a supply guy handing out supplies, or you are the force provider.

Sorry about your 2 missed Christmases. I know that seemed like a big deal back then. Double it, add in missed kids' birthdays, and anniversaries and you'll be in the company of most Army guys these days.

 

[KingTM]

View attachment 10626 Since the commanders trophy will be residing in its proper place this year cane we all at least agree on this

This is pure gold. I have a very good friend whom began his career with one hitch in the Navy, got out for a year and then went into the CG. He retired a Senior Chief as a radar guy.
I give him crap, nonstop.

This is pretty funny.

 

[Redleg]

Dude...just let this go or I will bust you out on stolen valor. The Marines did not "rescue" the Delta Force operatives and the Rangers from the "Mog" as it was actually referred too. In addition..just let it go. It is painfully obvious you were not combat arms.

The Marine infantrymen and artillerymen I have served with hate being associated with the Navy. They'll laugh off "dumb grunt", "jarhead" and the like all day. Call them a sailor and its on.

I'll grant that Army-Navy week is the one time they might actually acknowledge their tie to Department of the Navy.

 

[solesrfr]

The Marine infantrymen and artillerymen I have served with hate being associated with the Navy. They'll laugh off "dumb grunt", "jarhead" and the like all day. Call them a sailor and its on.

I'll grant that Army-Navy week is the one time they might actually acknowledge their tie to Department of the Navy.

Navy and Marines would fight all the time until some Army, civilian, foreign chuckle head started messing with one or the other. Then it was like messing with family. I watched it happen in Jebel Ali when some Brits thought they could take on some squids...Next thing you see is a host of Marines thumping heads. Good times.



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[Redleg]

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Gotta admit that's a good one.

 

[Redleg]

Navy and Marines would fight all the time until some Army, civilian, foreign chuckle head started messing with one or the other. Then it was like messing with family. I watched it happen in Jebel Ali when some Brits thought they could take on some squids...Next thing you see is a host of Marines thumping heads. Good times.


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Yep. That's how we all roll. We'll give each other tons of grief in the Army, then band together against other services, then U.S. services against allies, then all of us whipping real a$$ on the bad guys.

 

[Pops]

ARMY!

Ground Pounders...FAAF

 

[solesrfr]

What is kinda funny is I would not be upset with an Army win. 14 years of dominance takes a little fun out of the rivalry. That said...

Go Navy!
Beat Army!



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[Huskerthom]

Gee, thanks for the doctrine lesson, but SUPPLYING the rear guard is one of two things- you are a supply guy handing out supplies, or you are the force provider.

Sorry about your 2 missed Christmases. I know that seemed like a big deal back then. Double it, add in missed kids' birthdays, and anniversaries and you'll be in the company of most Army guys these days.

Not my only missed Christmas. However that caused 4 in 5 years. There are less marine units than Army units so we miss a lot more. We used to say USMC stands for U suckers Miss Christmas. 16 years in the Corps I was actually home for 4. 2 of those were the luck of when I went in. I graduated boot camp in the middle of December and then graduated my schools a year later at the same time. After that made it home for Christmas 2 times.

Oh and your "point" about rear guard is Wrong. In a retreat effort. Which is what our leaving Somalia was. The rear guard is there with minimal equipment to protect those loading the big guns allowing them to get out safely. Have a nice day.

 

[Huskerthom]

The Marine infantrymen and artillerymen I have served with hate being associated with the Navy. They'll laugh off "dumb grunt", "jarhead" and the like all day. Call them a sailor and its on.

I'll grant that Army-Navy week is the one time they might actually acknowledge their tie to Department of the Navy.

Correct, because Marine officers come out of Navy as well. Also they come together when on another services base. Spent time on Ft Gordon. We shared a barracks with the Navy. (They had one side we had the other. We were allowed to mess with the Navy. The Army was not.

 

[Redleg]

Not my only missed Christmas. However that caused 4 in 5 years. There are less marine units than Army units so we miss a lot more. We used to say USMC stands for U suckers Miss Christmas. 16 years in the Corps I was actually home for 4. 2 of those were the luck of when I went in. I graduated boot camp in the middle of December and then graduated my schools a year later at the same time. After that made it home for Christmas 2 times.

Oh and your "point" about rear guard is Wrong. In a retreat effort. Which is what our leaving Somalia was. The rear guard is there with minimal equipment to protect those loading the big guns allowing them to get out safely. Have a nice day.

I simply asked you a question about your use of the term SUPPLY to clarify what you were actually doing - doctrinally speaking. You seem to be offended that I implied you were either a supply guy or force provider, but you are the one that used that term. Not sure why you think I was challenging the use of the term rear guard.

Supply officers, sergeants, and specialists "supply" things. Maneuver units don't "supply security" or "supply the seizure of an objective". If you were part of a higher headquarters tasked to provide a unit of marines to act as the rear guard, I could understand someone stating they "supplied" the force needed- meaning they provided it. I was simply trying to understand your role.

Thanks for your service.

 

[joncarl]

Exactly! I have plenty of friends in all branches of the service, and we love to give each other a hard time about the shortcomings of each branch, or member of said branch, but we unite quickly, and efficiently, when we are in a conflict.

Air Force had the best looking girls, I will say that.

 

[Huskerthom]

I simply asked you a question about your use of the term SUPPLY to clarify what you were actually doing - doctrinally speaking. You seem to be offended that I implied you were either a supply guy or force provider, but you are the one that used that term. Not sure why you think I was challenging the use of the term rear guard.

Supply officers, sergeants, and specialists "supply" things. Maneuver units don't "supply security" or "supply the seizure of an objective". If you were part of a higher headquarters tasked to provide a unit of marines to act as the rear guard, I could understand someone stating they "supplied" the force needed- meaning they provided it. I was simply trying to understand your role.

Thanks for your service.

I was a communications guy. If that is what you wanted to know just ask what did you do? I was part of the higher unit as I specifically provided communications for the Brigade commander. However my first trip to the armpit of the world I had to wait for my Equipment to get there. So while waiting my job was to lead and ensure security for equipment and supplies moving from the port to the Embassy. As i previously stated i lead 3/4 truck convoys from sun up to sun down right through the heart of Mogadishu. Once we were outside the wire we only had security from the 10 - 12 Marines I had with me. When I went back 18 months later I was supplying Communications for the Task force Commander. What you and your pal seemed to allude to me being in the rear. In Somalia there was no rear. There was in the wire and outside the wire. Once outside you better watch your 6.

Now during the Gulf war I was in the rear. Sitting on the port of El Jubail. That was a REMF situation. Never saw any bad guys through that whole 8 months. Even got to watch the super bowl Live. Quite a feat for the early 90s.

Also thanks for yours.

 

[Redleg]

I was a communications guy. If that is what you wanted to know just ask what did you do? I was part of the higher unit as I specifically provided communications for the Brigade commander. However my first trip to the armpit of the world I had to wait for my Equipment to get there. So while waiting my job was to lead and ensure security for equipment and supplies moving from the port to the Embassy. As i previously stated i lead 3/4 truck convoys from sun up to sun down right through the heart of Mogadishu. Once we were outside the wire we only had security from the 10 - 12 Marines I had with me. When I went back 18 months later I was supplying Communications for the Task force Commander. What you and your pal seemed to allude to me being in the rear. In Somalia there was no rear. There was in the wire and outside the wire. Once outside you better watch your 6.

Now during the Gulf war I was in the rear. Sitting on the port of El Jubail. That was a REMF situation. Never saw any bad guys through that whole 8 months. Even got to watch the super bowl Live. Quite a feat for the early 90s.

Also thanks for yours.

 

[solesrfr]

Air Force had the best looking girls, I will say that.

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