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Winter Testing Results

BigRedTradition

Scout Team
10 Year Member
I agree on the ballet (not so much on the break dancing, although break dancing should be easier after ballet). I have watched some ballet. Ballet dancers the precise definition of "athlete". They have a mix of strength, power, and most notably control that any LB, RB, DB, and WR could use to improve their game. I don't know how much it would improve OL play, but it definitely couldn't hurt, especially with flexibility and quickness. Might also help to cut down on some injuries.

I remember from the early to mid 1980s, a wide receiver named Jason Gamble. Jason was being favorably compared to the great Lynn Swan from the Pittsburgh Steelers. One broadcaster mentioned that his leaps to catch footballs looked like something a ballet dancer would do. A couple of weeks later it was leaked out that Jason had been doing ballet. He eventually quit football to concentrate strictly on ballet. (That's how I remember the story, anyway.)

Poor guy! He went from catching footballs to catching athletic, beautiful ballerinas. Wish I could have done that!
Lynn Swan studied dance (ballet, tap, jazz, etc) from 4yo until his senior year in hs). Bruce Lee was cha cha dancing champion of Hong Kong. There is definitely something to be said for studying dance. Oh yeah, Ali also studied ballet.
 

CrabHusker

Shut up and color
5 Year Member
I don't disagree with anything you said and I don't blame any one part of the program for the failures so far. More like a combination of everything.

One thing I do know is that I train to stay in top surfing shape. This includes endurance, cardio, strength, burst, and flexibility. I built up my strength significantly while also greatly increasing my flexibility at the same time. I increased all 5 things I mentioned all at the same time while also increasing my muscle mass. I did that by researching and finding cutting edge programs focused on surf training using the latest techniques and knowledge.

I am not sure what is happening at NU but when former players talk about what they needed to work on to prepare for the NFL it gives me pause and more questions than answers.



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Agree on the sport specific training. I trained differently for boxing, football and baseball. Totally different programs that only slightly complimented each other and in some cases not at all. My biggest issue was the weight/strength/hypertrophy training I did for football versus what was needed for boxing. Heavy weight training caused elongated recovery times, increased muscle soreness and stiffness in the short term and impacted sparring and bag sessions. Not a good combo, so I had to adjust. Even baseball I'd get so sore in my normal football routines that I'd have to back off or it would impact my throwing motion and my swing. I would imagine your surfing overall routines would be similarly differential to football training from my boxing routines, though I'm not certain. On the 'cutting edge' end of things, I agree we don't need to be 1975 'Husker Power' to win again. In fact I don't think we've been close to that for a long time. I've seen a few pieces on the program and it looks more innovative than I could imagine an antiquated program to be. Honestly though, I'm just not sure.

On the prep for the combine, that's true of nearly every kid coming in. Schools get them ready to compete for their team, using their systems and for their desired outcomes. Combine specific training is driven by the combine events. You'll routinely hear of guys completely changing everything they do to prep and that's great. It's also false. If a kid runs a 4.6 forty normally, then spends a couple of months working on his 40 time with a specialist then drops it down to a 4.4, that's great. He's likely not able to keep it there when he has to return to a 'normal' routine. I'm not concerned when a kid has to change things up to perform for the combine, unless he's an O lineman who I can out bench.
 

huskerman1

Scout Team
5 Year Member
Has SF and staff ever released them?




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When HCSF came here, he indicated that the results of WC were not where they needed to be, so he chose not to publish results until they were where they needed to be................so in year 4.............................
 
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solesrfr

Pura Vida!
5 Year Member
When HCSF came here, he indicated that the results of WC were not where they needed to be, so he chose not to publish results until they were where they needed to be................so in year 4.............................

I remember that.

2018, okay.
2019, ummm.
2020, errrr.
2021, ugh!


This is not me saying I care if they get posted or not but if SF gave that reason and it is the same reason not posted each year......



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solesrfr

Pura Vida!
5 Year Member
Agree on the sport specific training. I trained differently for boxing, football and baseball. Totally different programs that only slightly complimented each other and in some cases not at all. My biggest issue was the weight/strength/hypertrophy training I did for football versus what was needed for boxing. Heavy weight training caused elongated recovery times, increased muscle soreness and stiffness in the short term and impacted sparring and bag sessions. Not a good combo, so I had to adjust. Even baseball I'd get so sore in my normal football routines that I'd have to back off or it would impact my throwing motion and my swing. I would imagine your surfing overall routines would be similarly differential to football training from my boxing routines, though I'm not certain. On the 'cutting edge' end of things, I agree we don't need to be 1975 'Husker Power' to win again. In fact I don't think we've been close to that for a long time. I've seen a few pieces on the program and it looks more innovative than I could imagine an antiquated program to be. Honestly though, I'm just not sure.

On the prep for the combine, that's true of nearly every kid coming in. Schools get them ready to compete for their team, using their systems and for their desired outcomes. Combine specific training is driven by the combine events. You'll routinely hear of guys completely changing everything they do to prep and that's great. It's also false. If a kid runs a 4.6 forty normally, then spends a couple of months working on his 40 time with a specialist then drops it down to a 4.4, that's great. He's likely not able to keep it there when he has to return to a 'normal' routine. I'm not concerned when a kid has to change things up to perform for the combine, unless he's an O lineman who I can out bench.

Agreed and know there is a difference between training for different sports. I am just saying that you can train for weight and strength gains while also training to increase flexibility. They are not mutually exclusive.



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Bean

Grey Shirt
5 Year Member

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Record Platform additions.
It's hard to read so I copied it to the below table:
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It would be nice to know how many pounds before it was converted to index points, vertical jump height, as well as 10 and 40 yard dash times.
 
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Blue Howl

Drink up, Shriner!
5 Year Member

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Record Platform additions.
It's hard to read so I copied it to the below table:
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It would be nice to know how many pounds before it was converted to index points, vertical jump height, as well as 10 and 40 yard dash times.
Thanks for posting that. I tried to read the tweet but couldn't easily make out the numbers so gave up.

I agree with your comment regarding the numbers......about the only thing I can take away from this is that Jackson is an impressive specimen, and Taylor-Britt must be really strong for his size.
 

Bean

Grey Shirt
5 Year Member
I went into the history books to see how points are figured and all I have found so far is 40 yard dash time and points, but still not sure how they are figured from time to get points. I'm sure body weight has to be figured into the conversion. I'll bet the Nebraska Athletic Performance Laboratory (NAPL) has the formula.
10-yard dash
Dusty Stamer IB 1.53 sec.

40-yard dash
Dusty Stamer IB 4.44 sec.
Fabian Washington DB 4.47 sec.
Marques Simmons IB 4.50 sec.

40-yard dash points
Dusty Stamer IB 775 pts.
Marques Simmons IB 744 pts.
Fabian Washington DB 733 pts.
 

kpaso

Scout Team
10 Year Member
I agree on the ballet (not so much on the break dancing, although break dancing should be easier after ballet). I have watched some ballet. Ballet dancers the precise definition of "athlete". They have a mix of strength, power, and most notably control that any LB, RB, DB, and WR could use to improve their game. I don't know how much it would improve OL play, but it definitely couldn't hurt, especially with flexibility and quickness. Might also help to cut down on some injuries.

I remember from the early to mid 1980s, a wide receiver named Jason Gamble. Jason was being favorably compared to the great Lynn Swan from the Pittsburgh Steelers. One broadcaster mentioned that his leaps to catch footballs looked like something a ballet dancer would do. A couple of weeks later it was leaked out that Jason had been doing ballet. He eventually quit football to concentrate strictly on ballet. (That's how I remember the story, anyway.)

Poor guy! He went from catching footballs to catching athletic, beautiful ballerinas. Wish I could have done that!

Hope he did well, LOL.
 

kpaso

Scout Team
10 Year Member
2003 athletes had amazing numbers, 2 Nebraskans led the way. once it is figured out, look out for the walkons.
 

solesrfr

Pura Vida!
5 Year Member
With Jurgens in the top five it is easy to see why SF is so high on him at center regardless of snap issues.




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BasilLongfellow

Zubrowka--For Patriots!!
10 Year Member
I'm ecstatic about the winter testing results. I'm particularly excited about what Cam Jurgens had to say:

“The point Frost emphasized was that they used to do this back in the ’90s, so being able to see those guys’ scores and then see some of the guys on our team just blow those out of the water, it shows us that we’re just as athletic and big, and we can do everything that they did in the ’90s," Jurgens said.

https://journalstar.com/sports/husk...cle_063dbc5a-9ada-59d1-8fb2-034adc234f24.html

Coach Frost's players have set the bar. I think we can expect big things in 2021, at the very least playing for the conference championship according to how high we are on our winter results.
 
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