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We ran 5 WR once against Indiana… madness.

Respectfully agree to disagree. While I’m no Satterfield apologist, I recognize that often times his stats are limited by the types of games where we’ve won. We’ve gotten a lead, and then we’ve gone conservative in the 2nd half to just run out the clock and end the game. We lost to Illinois due to our special teams, and we lost to Indiana due to everything really, but if you go back and watch the film, the offense outplayed the defense.

I’m tired of people putting White on a pedestal. Yes our defense dominates in games that we’re supposed to win, but in games where we play a team with a pulse, we’ve been no better off this season.

Folks give White a pass because his defense over performed last season. Take last season out of it, and watch the film, and we have three coordinators who aren’t cutting it. White, Satterfield, AND Foley.

I’m a White fan, I do think he’s really good, but we really haven’t taken a step I thought we’d take this year with what we had coming back on the roster.

The defenses performance was not good at all against Indiana and spotty against Illinois. Our performance the rest of the way out will inform my thought process on wether or not I agree with you on him ‘not cutting it’.

Satterfield’s much further down the road than White and Foley is in the ditch, IMO.
 

Yes, because the best coaches always learn: If a play works once, you should run it every time!

(jk)

(I'm sure that's not what you're saying...)

Exactly the opposite tends to happen. Most teams have a base formation they can run almost all of their plays out of.

If the formation looks the same presnap most of the time but there are a ton of plays, hot routes, and audibles out of the same formation, it allows the offense to adjust to what the defense is doing without changing the look presnap. This is harder to defend than a bunch of exotic formations with 1-2 predictable plays.

This is no different than the classic I Form of Nebraska’s heyday. They had a zillion plays and blocking schemes out of one formation complemented by the occasional exotic look.
 
5 WRs takes away any threat of the run, especially with a QB who isn't a runner. While I think 5 WRs could be something you see more of, there is a reason we aren't leaning heavily on it. It leaves no extra blockers and makes us very pass reliant.
I think the OP is close.
Spreading the field 4 WR, make the defense cover the whole field, would help the run game and if the WR blocking improved, increase th value of bubble screens.

When Hyden Fry was still at Iowa and I was part of the ISU radio broadcast team he did this to ISU.
He put two WR far out to each side with single set back.
IF: A: LB/Safety moved out of box to help cover WRs, they handed it off to back, never gained less than 5 yards, often much more.
B: Everybody stayed in the box, then they threw slants to crossing WR or bubble screens for good to big gains.
Only time ISU stopped Iowa was when someone made an individual big play which was far to rare and Iowa won going away.

So yes, spreading the field, which I think is OP's point but 4 WR not 5, may indeed help the running game.
Not much against OSU, but against the next 4 teams on our schedule it would be a very viable concept, especially with a runner who aggressively hits the hole like Johnson or even the occasional use of Jacory for his speed if he could get to the second level he would be gone.

GBR
 
I think the OP is close.
Spreading the field 4 WR, make the defense cover the whole field, would help the run game and if the WR blocking improved, increase th value of bubble screens.

When Hyden Fry was still at Iowa and I was part of the ISU radio broadcast team he did this to ISU.
He put two WR far out to each side with single set back.
IF: A: LB/Safety moved out of box to help cover WRs, they handed it off to back, never gained less than 5 yards, often much more.
B: Everybody stayed in the box, then they threw slants to crossing WR or bubble screens for good to big gains.
Only time ISU stopped Iowa was when someone made an individual big play which was far to rare and Iowa won going away.

So yes, spreading the field, which I think is OP's point but 4 WR not 5, may indeed help the running game.
Not much against OSU, but against the next 4 teams on our schedule it would be a very viable concept, especially with a runner who aggressively hits the hole like Johnson or even the occasional use of Jacory for his speed if he could get to the second level he would be gone.

GBR

Thanks for your articulation. I was looking at empty with the TB either being Jacory or Rahmir, maybe Emmitt. But yes you can easily pull in an extra blocker for 4 WR or 3 WR with a Fidone or Nelson in a 3pt.

LSU did empty a ton with Burrow and it was absolutely deadly. I think DR is a quick decision maker pre snap but not quite as good in PA and ZR. I trust his brain, arm, and accuracy if he is set to throw when gets the snap. I think it would simplify the game for him a lot.
 



Thanks for your articulation. I was looking at empty with the TB either being Jacory or Rahmir, maybe Emmitt. But yes you can easily pull in an extra blocker for 4 WR or 3 WR with a Fidone or Nelson in a 3pt.

LSU did empty a ton with Burrow and it was absolutely deadly. I think DR is a quick decision maker pre snap but not quite as good in PA and ZR. I trust his brain, arm, and accuracy if he is set to throw when gets the snap. I think it would simplify the game for him a lot.
The problem is we don’t have a SINGLE receiver that could sniff Ja’Marr Chase or Justin Jefferson’s jock strap. So yes, while Burrow was crazy talented (as is DR) we lack….how do I say it..:..the weapons lol
 
I think the OP is close.
Spreading the field 4 WR, make the defense cover the whole field, would help the run game and if the WR blocking improved, increase th value of bubble screens.

When Hyden Fry was still at Iowa and I was part of the ISU radio broadcast team he did this to ISU.
He put two WR far out to each side with single set back.
IF: A: LB/Safety moved out of box to help cover WRs, they handed it off to back, never gained less than 5 yards, often much more.
B: Everybody stayed in the box, then they threw slants to crossing WR or bubble screens for good to big gains.
Only time ISU stopped Iowa was when someone made an individual big play which was far to rare and Iowa won going away.

So yes, spreading the field, which I think is OP's point but 4 WR not 5, may indeed help the running game.
Not much against OSU, but against the next 4 teams on our schedule it would be a very viable concept, especially with a runner who aggressively hits the hole like Johnson or even the occasional use of Jacory for his speed if he could get to the second level he would be gone.

GBR
Do we even have any slant routes in our offense?
 




5 WRs takes away any threat of the run, especially with a QB who isn't a runner. While I think 5 WRs could be something you see more of, there is a reason we aren't leaning heavily on it. It leaves no extra blockers and makes us very pass reliant.
But what if we keep getting completions? The horror!
 
Exactly the opposite tends to happen. Most teams have a base formation they can run almost all of their plays out of.

If the formation looks the same presnap most of the time but there are a ton of plays, hot routes, and audibles out of the same formation, it allows the offense to adjust to what the defense is doing without changing the look presnap. This is harder to defend than a bunch of exotic formations with 1-2 predictable plays.

This is no different than the classic I Form of Nebraska’s heyday. They had a zillion plays and blocking schemes out of one formation complemented by the occasional exotic look.
POTY. The KISS method always works, most of the time.
 



POTY. The KISS method always works, most of the time.
Gene Simmons still has eligibility left?

kiss2.jpg
 

Respectfully agree to disagree. While I’m no Satterfield apologist, I recognize that often times his stats are limited by the types of games where we’ve won. We’ve gotten a lead, and then we’ve gone conservative in the 2nd half to just run out the clock and end the game. We lost to Illinois due to our special teams, and we lost to Indiana due to everything really, but if you go back and watch the film, the offense outplayed the defense.

I’m tired of people putting White on a pedestal. Yes our defense dominates in games that we’re supposed to win, but in games where we play a team with a pulse, we’ve been no better off this season.

Folks give White a pass because his defense over performed last season. Take last season out of it, and watch the film, and we have three coordinators who aren’t cutting it. White, Satterfield, AND Foley.
White at least appears to learn. Satterfield is odd, I don't understand him. We've ran through 4 different QBs since he's been here, now we have a top ranked QB. We still can't move the ball consistently. I'd love for Satterfield to overperform.
 

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