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We ran 5 WR once against Indiana… madness.

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^^^ every offensive snap against Indiana.

Our best play of the game imo came at 6:20. 5 WR w Fidone acting as WR in the slot. DR makes a quick read, perfect throw, off to the races. No slow developing playaction, no motion, no blocker leaking out of the back field after Dylan has already had to evade pressure.

It was a good playcall and well executed which must be why we didn’t do it again.

If I had my way, this would be our base formation for the rest of the season. Dylan has the rare talent for it. We have the skill players for it. We need immediate 5 yard passing options. When they blitz, find single coverage and toss 50/50s. This is the only time I saw someone sit down at 5 yards in the middle of the field the entire game. Against a zone. Insane. The rest of the day was vertical/longer routes with the hope of a check down. The problem is Indiana isn’t dumb like Colorado.

If we want to have a prayer against OSU, we’ve got to go 5WR and take our chances.
 

Honestly after watching all of the offensive snaps again, I’m less upset with Satterfield and more upset with White. It make you wonder what happens if Dowdell doesn’t fumble. At that point we’re 7-7 and not playing down 2 scores.

Letting Indiana score on every possession though quickly changed the offensive game plan and we’re just not set up to win those types of games where we have to air it out to keep up.
 
ThrowFar60 said:
Honestly after watching all of the offensive snaps again, I’m less upset with Satterfield and more upset with White. It make you wonder what happens if Dowdell doesn’t fumble. At that point we’re 7-7 and not playing down 2 scores.

Letting Indiana score on every possession though quickly changed the offensive game plan and we’re just not set up to win those types of games where we have to air it out to keep up.
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They aren’t mutually exclusive but I don’t think White still has to prove he’s a good DC. He is and always has been. Most defenses have anomalies, but Satt has never really been good anywhere.

I prefer a good ground game. But 2.9 ypc against Indiana is crazy. I can’t imagine we can run at all against OSU.
 
FullbackSympathy said:


^^^ every offensive snap against Indiana.

Our best play of the game imo came at 6:20. 5 WR w Fidone acting as WR in the slot. DR makes a quick read, perfect throw, off to the races. No slow developing playaction, no motion, no blocker leaking out of the back field after Dylan has already had to evade pressure.

It was a good playcall and well executed which must be why we didn’t do it again.

If I had my way, this would be our base formation for the rest of the season. Dylan has the rare talent for it. We have the skill players for it. We need immediate 5 yard passing options. When they blitz, find single coverage and toss 50/50s. This is the only time I saw someone sit down at 5 yards in the middle of the field the entire game. Against a zone. Insane. The rest of the day was vertical/longer routes with the hope of a check down. The problem is Indiana isn’t dumb like Colorado.

If we want to have a prayer against OSU, we’ve got to go 5WR and take our chances.
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Say you have NO clue about Football without saying it. Better to be quiet and thot ignorant than to Open your mouth (or keyboard) and remove ALL Doubt.
 
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Husker In Oklahoma said:
I’m not sure it matters. The massive problem of consistency remains. Can they do any one thing well, over the course of an entire game? Haven’t seen it yet.
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I’ll have moments in our games where I see our alignment against what the defense shows and the hair on the back of my neck will stand up, my face flushes and I’m sure we’re about to see a beauty of a play because we’re set up for it.

Then we’ll either have a delay penalty, a false start, a WR or TE catch a cleat and stumble, a RB misread an incoming rusher and chip a guy who’s already blocked, etc. I don’t know if the players see the same thing as I’m seeing and the anticipation messes with their head, or if they’ve just not correctly performed the task assigned them in the play to let muscle memory take over and just do their jobs. It’s not just once or twice a game, but seemingly once a drive. We’re in the right play, or the defense is playing it wrong, and we don’t execute.

When we’re talking ‘Rebuild’, I think that’s part of it. Getting ALL of the players who’ll see the field to the point where they’re going to execute their assignment as designed. From what I’ve read, we’re practicing right in that we’re rolling three or four deep through things and not having the 2’s on down watch. That will improve things.

To your point, I’d love to see it in a game this year. We’ve had some really good drives. Let’s put a handful of those together in a half. Then another three or four the next half. Develop the confidence and consistency to execute at a level that makes the play call the difference between a 3 yard gain and taking something to the house.
 
I agree that the defense ultimately is more to blame for what happened. After the first three offensive possessions for each team, we had almost played them even. IU had two touchdowns, and we had two long drives and would likely have had two touchdowns if Dowdell hadn't fumbled. That's when the dam broke. I think the offense may have been able to hold its own if we had been able to stick to the game plan and we didn't feel like we had to score on every possession.

One thing that I noticed was that the IU running back was almost always open (with no one within ten yards) for a checkdown throw if the receivers were covered. It was mind boggling to me that so often we didn't have a defender covering him.
 



FullbackSympathy said:


^^^ every offensive snap against Indiana.

Our best play of the game imo came at 6:20. 5 WR w Fidone acting as WR in the slot. DR makes a quick read, perfect throw, off to the races. No slow developing playaction, no motion, no blocker leaking out of the back field after Dylan has already had to evade pressure.

It was a good playcall and well executed which must be why we didn’t do it again.

If I had my way, this would be our base formation for the rest of the season. Dylan has the rare talent for it. We have the skill players for it. We need immediate 5 yard passing options. When they blitz, find single coverage and toss 50/50s. This is the only time I saw someone sit down at 5 yards in the middle of the field the entire game. Against a zone. Insane. The rest of the day was vertical/longer routes with the hope of a check down. The problem is Indiana isn’t dumb like Colorado.

If we want to have a prayer against OSU, we’ve got to go 5WR and take our chances.
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5 WRs takes away any threat of the run, especially with a QB who isn't a runner. While I think 5 WRs could be something you see more of, there is a reason we aren't leaning heavily on it. It leaves no extra blockers and makes us very pass reliant.
 
ThrowFar60 said:
Honestly after watching all of the offensive snaps again, I’m less upset with Satterfield and more upset with White. It make you wonder what happens if Dowdell doesn’t fumble. At that point we’re 7-7 and not playing down 2 scores.

Letting Indiana score on every possession though quickly changed the offensive game plan and we’re just not set up to win those types of games where we have to air it out to keep up.
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Mmmmm, no. Satterfields dumpster fire has not changed. It's pretty sad when the defense is so lights out that we look at their poor game or plays as a reason to give the offensive issues a pass. Satterfield has been consistently bad for two years now. I'm hoping he can begin to be Okay to Good so we might scratch one win out the remaining schedule because I gotta tell ya, what we've watched the last few weeks isn't very encouraging.
 


Cornhuskers7 said:
5 WRs takes away any threat of the run, especially with a QB who isn't a runner. While I think 5 WRs could be something you see more of, there is a reason we aren't leaning heavily on it. It leaves no extra blockers and makes us very pass reliant.
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I’d use 3 WR, one TE, and one scat back who can run routes and go tempo. You can always bring them into a more run heavy formation, but I’d rather force the defense into coverage personnel before running.

It goes against conventional football to set up the run with the pass, but I don’t see a way around it against good defenses with our line. If we run, we need to do it from the spread. Our power formations are getting absolutely blown up.
 
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FullbackSympathy said:
If I had my way, this would be our base formation for the rest of the season. Dylan has the rare talent for it. We have the skill players for it. We need immediate 5 yard passing options. When they blitz, find single coverage and toss 50/50s. This is the only time I saw someone sit down at 5 yards in the middle of the field the entire game. Against a zone. Insane. The rest of the day was vertical/longer routes with the hope of a check down. The problem is Indiana isn’t dumb like Colorado.

If we want to have a prayer against OSU, we’ve got to go 5WR and take our chances.
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Yes, because the best coaches always learn: If a play works once, you should run it every time!

(jk)

(I'm sure that's not what you're saying...)
 

Scrollsker said:
Mmmmm, no. Satterfields dumpster fire has not changed. It's pretty sad when the defense is so lights out that we look at their poor game or plays as a reason to give the offensive issues a pass. Satterfield has been consistently bad for two years now. I'm hoping he can begin to be Okay to Good so we might scratch one win out the remaining schedule because I gotta tell ya, what we've watched the last few weeks isn't very encouraging.
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Respectfully agree to disagree. While I’m no Satterfield apologist, I recognize that often times his stats are limited by the types of games where we’ve won. We’ve gotten a lead, and then we’ve gone conservative in the 2nd half to just run out the clock and end the game. We lost to Illinois due to our special teams, and we lost to Indiana due to everything really, but if you go back and watch the film, the offense outplayed the defense.

I’m tired of people putting White on a pedestal. Yes our defense dominates in games that we’re supposed to win, but in games where we play a team with a pulse, we’ve been no better off this season.

Folks give White a pass because his defense over performed last season. Take last season out of it, and watch the film, and we have three coordinators who aren’t cutting it. White, Satterfield, AND Foley.
 
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