Trump Executive Order

[Hville]

Power 4 college sports conferences react to Trump's latest executive order

Leaders of the Big Ten, SEC, ACC and Big 12 support Trump's executive order on college sports and are pushing Congress to pass the SCORE Act quickly.

www.foxnews.com

I know this is political but there is no way around not having a discussion about this as it’s the most important part of college sports right now. I hope administrators let loose the reigns a bit on this particular thread. It would be nice to have a sports forum thread to unleash a bit.

 

[Hville]

I’ll start by saying I believe this is going to be heavily challenged by the courts and might be one executive order that might not get much push back by the opposing party. The whole country sees what is going on and knows congress needs to act. It’s absolutely sickening that both parties in congress have failed to act on it over two different administrations.

 

[wcbsas]

Regardless of anyone’s opinion of Trump, his gathering of influential collegiate people in a commission to address college athletics was a smart move. Hopefully this is one of the action items that came out of that gathering.

I agree it won’t last long as the lawyers will be circling this order but maybe it forces both sides to get together and do something.

 

[Hooked on Huskers]

I agree it won’t last long as the lawyers will be circling this order .......

• Marty McFly: "Within two hours of his arrest, Martin McFly Jr. was tried, convicted and sentenced to fifteen years in the state penitentiary."? Within two hours?
• Doc: The justice system works swiftly in the future now that they've abolished all lawyers.

 

[Bigger Ed]

I admit I don't follow this closely as it is the least entertaining/interesting thing about sports, but based on my understanding of how the courts have already ruled on this, there's little Congress can do. Can it write laws that infringe student's right to transfer? Can it limit the amount of money a player can make on NIL?

If I weren't such an optimist, I'd say the only thing Congress is likely to do is figure out how to squeeze more taxes out of the whole mess.

No one wants to talk about the only way to fix this. Abolish this antiquated idea of student-athlete. Players become employees of the schools, signing contracts with buyout clauses that sting schools that like to poach athletes. Just a thought here: have students sign over their NIL rights to schools, in the same way schools sign their media rights to conferences. The idea here is that, IMO, the current system can't be corrected by tweaks. It needs to be re-imagined and rebuilt from the ground up.

 

[wcbsas]

I admit I don't follow this closely as it is the least entertaining/interesting thing about sports, but based on my understanding of how the courts have already ruled on this, there's little Congress can do. Can it write laws that infringe student's right to transfer? Can it limit the amount of money a player can make on NIL?

If I weren't such an optimist, I'd say the only thing Congress is likely to do is figure out how to squeeze more taxes out of the whole mess.

No one wants to talk about the only way to fix this. Abolish this antiquated idea of student-athlete. Players become employees of the schools, signing contracts with buyout clauses that sting schools that like to poach athletes. Just a thought here: have students sign over their NIL rights to schools, in the same way schools sign their media rights to conferences. The idea here is that, IMO, the current system can't be corrected by tweaks. It needs to be re-imagined and rebuilt from the ground up.

Congress CAN do something.

They can pass a law that exempts the NCAA from some of the laws that are being used by both sides to litigate their position.

For example the rules that were in place to restrict for freedom of movement have been neutered. Maybe re-addressing that.

The flip side is the US court/judicial system has become increasingly litigious often over-stepping their role.

 

[Bigger Ed]

Congress CAN do something.

They can pass a law that exempts the NCAA from some of the laws that are being used by both sides to litigate their position.

For example the rules that were in place to restrict for freedom of movement have been neutered. Maybe re-addressing that.

The flip side is the US court/judicial system has become increasingly litigious often over-stepping their role.

How can you allow a person or an organization to restrict someone else's freedom to attend the college of their choice without violating the Constitution? The mechanism already exists, it's just that no one seems to want to consider it: have players sign contracts where they voluntarily accept those constraints for mutual benefit.

 

[wcbsas]

How can you allow a person or an organization to restrict someone else's freedom to attend the college of their choice without violating the Constitution? The mechanism already exists, it's just that no one seems to want to consider it: have players sign contracts where they voluntarily accept those constraints for mutual benefit.

You can do it by (a) Congress writing a law that states if you willingly sign a letter of intent with a collegiate institution that provides compensation to you … that the laws that provide freedom of movement are not applicable. -or- (b) you willingly sign a contract (similar to non-compete) that stipulates you cannot leave without penalty (such as sitting out a calendar year).

 

[Bigger Ed]

You can do it by (a) Congress writing a law that states if you willingly sign a letter of intent with a collegiate institution that provides compensation to you … that the laws that provide freedom of movement are not applicable. -or- (b) you willingly sign a contract (similar to non-compete) that stipulates you cannot leave without penalty (such as sitting out a calendar year).

As I said, that mechanism is already in place: a contract, but no one wants to go there.

 

[ToroRed]

Power 4 college sports conferences react to Trump's latest executive order

Leaders of the Big Ten, SEC, ACC and Big 12 support Trump's executive order on college sports and are pushing Congress to pass the SCORE Act quickly.

www.foxnews.com

I know this is political but there is no way around not having a discussion about this as it’s the most important part of college sports right now. I hope administrators let loose the reigns a bit on this particular thread. It would be nice to have a sports forum thread to unleash a bit.

This is something that the NCAA should have handled years ago.

 

[ReasonablyRed]

Asymmetrical Profiting of the College Football Game has ruined it.

The game is simple in nature, strategy and play.

When parity exists, more population / fan bases stay engaged.

But, I offer the following inquiry?

I have yet to find a circumstance where a new "rule" or "law" change the system with the desired effect.

That requires enforcement.

Good luck...

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Asymmetrical Profiting of the College Football Game has ruined it.

The game is simple in nature, strategy and play.

When parity exists, more population / fan bases stay engaged.

But, I offer the following inquiry?

I have yet to find a circumstance where a new "rule" or "law" change the system with the desired effect.

That requires enforcement.

Good luck...
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This is cutting teeth admittedly, but having teeth in these rules and laws are long over due.

 

[Hville]

How can you allow a person or an organization to restrict someone else's freedom to attend the college of their choice without violating the Constitution? The mechanism already exists, it's just that no one seems to want to consider it: have players sign contracts where they voluntarily accept those constraints for mutual benefit.

You don’t restrict the individual’s from transferring. You restrict them from participating. You give the universities the ability to follow the ncaa rules without being challenged in court.

 

[MiniDisk]

Congress CAN do something.

They can pass a law that exempts the NCAA from some of the laws that are being used by both sides to litigate their position.

For example the rules that were in place to restrict for freedom of movement have been neutered. Maybe re-addressing that.

The flip side is the US court/judicial system has become increasingly litigious often over-stepping their role.

congress cant balance a checkbook, they wont do anything here unless its buried in another bill

 

[MiniDisk]

You don’t restrict the individual’s from transferring. You restrict them from participating. You give the universities the ability to follow the ncaa rules without being challenged in court.

agreed, trying to restrict the athletes directly wont work. you have to allow the NCAA to enforce the rules against its members w/o the courts interfering. schools know they can get around NCAA so they do it even if they dont directly do it via player led lawsuits. punishment for not following the rules needs to be applied to the schools. NIL/PFP/etc are separate matters that apply directly to players.