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SEC MVP of the 21st Century

treeplanter

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Historically and traditionally, the SEC has largely been a finesse conference filled by finesse programs producing finesse teams

Result:
Over a 60 year period, between 1936 and 1995, the SEC produced 11 national champions

{incidentally, the Big 8 also produced 11 national champions during this same 60yr span}

Since the turn of the current century, the SEC has seen a dramatic shift away from finesse football and towards a more physical genetic team makeup and style of play

Result:
Over the last 27 years, between 1999 and 2025, the SEC has produced 14 national champions

The catalyst for this shift in fundamental SEC football philosophy?
In my opinion, it was none other than the Nebraska Cornhuskers!

The 1995 Huskers, en route to the national championship, decimated the Florida Gators 62-24

How did Florida respond?
The Gators went out and won their 1st ever national title the very next season in 1996

The 1997 Huskers became national champs by virtue of a 42-17 blowout win over the Tennessee Volunteers

How did Tennessee respond?
The Vols went out and, the very next season, won their 1st national title in nearly 50 years

UF and UT witnessed, first hand, the physicality of Husker football
UF and UT worked hard to emulate this physicality moving forward

It paid off for both UF and UT

Soon after, the rest of the conference made it a point to follow suit…

Agree?
Disagree?
 
treeplanter said:
Historically and traditionally, the SEC has largely been a finesse conference filled by finesse programs producing finesse teams

Result:
Over a 60 year period, between 1936 and 1995, the SEC produced 11 national champions

{incidentally, the Big 8 also produced 11 national champions during this same 60yr span}

Since the turn of the current century, the SEC has seen a dramatic shift away from finesse football and towards a more physical genetic team makeup and style of play

Result:
Over the last 27 years, between 1999 and 2025, the SEC has produced 14 national champions

The catalyst for this shift in fundamental SEC football philosophy?
In my opinion, it was none other than the Nebraska Cornhuskers!

The 1995 Huskers, en route to the national championship, decimated the Florida Gators 62-24

How did Florida respond?
The Gators went out and won their 1st ever national title the very next season in 1996

The 1997 Huskers became national champs by virtue of a 42-17 blowout win over the Tennessee Volunteers

How did Tennessee respond?
The Vols went out and, the very next season, won their 1st national title in nearly 50 years

UF and UT witnessed, first hand, the physicality of Husker football
UF and UT worked hard to emulate this physicality moving forward

It paid off for both UF and UT

Soon after, the rest of the conference made it a point to follow suit…

Agree?
Disagree?
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The SEC bought themselves championships … see Scam Newton.
They bent the rules when there were some rules.

The SEC literally cheated themselves into prosperity.

Ever since the rules have gone away and now that the playing fields are relatively level the B1G has won more championships.
 
treeplanter said:
Historically and traditionally, the SEC has largely been a finesse conference filled by finesse programs producing finesse teams

Result:
Over a 60 year period, between 1936 and 1995, the SEC produced 11 national champions

{incidentally, the Big 8 also produced 11 national champions during this same 60yr span}

Since the turn of the current century, the SEC has seen a dramatic shift away from finesse football and towards a more physical genetic team makeup and style of play

Result:
Over the last 27 years, between 1999 and 2025, the SEC has produced 14 national champions

The catalyst for this shift in fundamental SEC football philosophy?
In my opinion, it was none other than the Nebraska Cornhuskers!

The 1995 Huskers, en route to the national championship, decimated the Florida Gators 62-24

How did Florida respond?
The Gators went out and won their 1st ever national title the very next season in 1996

The 1997 Huskers became national champs by virtue of a 42-17 blowout win over the Tennessee Volunteers

How did Tennessee respond?
The Vols went out and, the very next season, won their 1st national title in nearly 50 years

UF and UT witnessed, first hand, the physicality of Husker football
UF and UT worked hard to emulate this physicality moving forward

It paid off for both UF and UT

Soon after, the rest of the conference made it a point to follow suit…

Agree?
Disagree?
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My previous rant probably doesn’t negate your premise.

Yes the SEC has generated incredible linemen … offense and defense. See how many UGA linemen are in the NFL!
 
Disagree. Both teams were good before and after falling to NU. Spurrier in particular wasn't going to change his stripes.
 
treeplanter said:
Historically and traditionally, the SEC has largely been a finesse conference filled by finesse programs producing finesse teams

Result:
Over a 60 year period, between 1936 and 1995, the SEC produced 11 national champions

{incidentally, the Big 8 also produced 11 national champions during this same 60yr span}

Since the turn of the current century, the SEC has seen a dramatic shift away from finesse football and towards a more physical genetic team makeup and style of play

Result:
Over the last 27 years, between 1999 and 2025, the SEC has produced 14 national champions

The catalyst for this shift in fundamental SEC football philosophy?
In my opinion, it was none other than the Nebraska Cornhuskers!

The 1995 Huskers, en route to the national championship, decimated the Florida Gators 62-24

How did Florida respond?
The Gators went out and won their 1st ever national title the very next season in 1996

The 1997 Huskers became national champs by virtue of a 42-17 blowout win over the Tennessee Volunteers

How did Tennessee respond?
The Vols went out and, the very next season, won their 1st national title in nearly 50 years

UF and UT witnessed, first hand, the physicality of Husker football
UF and UT worked hard to emulate this physicality moving forward

It paid off for both UF and UT

Soon after, the rest of the conference made it a point to follow suit…

Agree?
Disagree?
Click to expand...
dont forget saban witnessed first hand at mich st what nebraska's physicality was truly like. his worst 2 point losses of his career.
 
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Bigger Ed said:
Disagree. Both teams were good before and after falling to NU. Spurrier in particular wasn't going to change his stripes.
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well florida got a second shot at florida st that year. back then it was almost unheard of for a championship to be a rematch.
 
Bigger Ed said:
Disagree. Both teams were good before and after falling to NU. Spurrier in particular wasn't going to change his stripes.
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I agree that Florida and Tennessee were good before playing Nebraska
That said, doesn't winning national titles 'post Nebraska' prove that they were even better after?

Furthermore, is it just coincidence that the conference, as a whole, began winning national championships at a much higher rate in the immediate aftermath of these encounters with the Huskers?
 
MiniDisk said:
dont forget saban witnessed first hand at mich st what nebraska's physicality was truly like. his worst 2 point losses of his career.
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I wonder how Saban would personally stack himself against Osborne?
For my money, Dr. Tom is easily - and without question - the greatest college football coach of all time!
 
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MiniDisk said:
nobody has done more with less regional talent then TO.
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Absolutely

The consistency, though, with which Osborne excelled is what truly sets him apart - in my mind
Never had a single subpar season!

{by Nebraska standards - yeah, sure, 9-3 with a loss to OU was a disappointing season, but by any other standard it was excellent}

All I know is that the only 5 coaches to ever have won a higher career percentage of their games than Osborne did {NCAA minimum 10yrs} each had at least one dud of a season

Not Osborne, though!

Like you implied, it's a hell of a lot harder to do what Osborne did at Nebraska than it is to do the same at places like Notre Dame, Florida, Ohio St, and Oklahoma!!
 
treeplanter said:
I agree that Florida and Tennessee were good before playing Nebraska
That said, doesn't winning national titles 'post Nebraska' prove that they were even better after?
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No. NU beat two potential National Champions. That doesn't mean FL & TN got better afterward. It just means that NU didn't repeat, which is extremely hard to do.
Both Florida and Tennessee were by in large top 10 teams between '94 & '99. They were good before and after their encounters with NU.
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treeplanter said:
Furthermore, is it just coincidence that the conference, as a whole, began winning national championships at a much higher rate in the immediate aftermath of these encounters with the Huskers?
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Yes. Prove me wrong.
[Edit. BTW, it took the SEC 5 years to win another NC after TN in '98. I don't consider that "immediate aftermath." Yes, the SEC went on a fantastic run starting in '03 with 14 NCs, half of which were won by Saban coached teams (1 at LSU, and 6 at Alabama.)]
 
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treeplanter said:
Historically and traditionally, the SEC has largely been a finesse conference filled by finesse programs producing finesse teams

Result:
Over a 60 year period, between 1936 and 1995, the SEC produced 11 national champions

{incidentally, the Big 8 also produced 11 national champions during this same 60yr span}

Since the turn of the current century, the SEC has seen a dramatic shift away from finesse football and towards a more physical genetic team makeup and style of play

Result:
Over the last 27 years, between 1999 and 2025, the SEC has produced 14 national champions

The catalyst for this shift in fundamental SEC football philosophy?
In my opinion, it was none other than the Nebraska Cornhuskers!

The 1995 Huskers, en route to the national championship, decimated the Florida Gators 62-24

How did Florida respond?
The Gators went out and won their 1st ever national title the very next season in 1996

The 1997 Huskers became national champs by virtue of a 42-17 blowout win over the Tennessee Volunteers

How did Tennessee respond?
The Vols went out and, the very next season, won their 1st national title in nearly 50 years

UF and UT witnessed, first hand, the physicality of Husker football
UF and UT worked hard to emulate this physicality moving forward

It paid off for both UF and UT

Soon after, the rest of the conference made it a point to follow suit…

Agree?
Disagree?
Click to expand...
I think it was more Nick Saban and Urban Meyer. But Nebraska was good in the 1990s, no doubt about that.
 
This discussion reminds me that TO had one team--one--that finished outside the AP top 15 his entire tenure. What a shame he was so under-appreciated until he won the big one.
 
We caught Florida and Tennessee as they were rising, but not at their peak. Just as Florida State caught us rising, and we lost, and then we were much better and barely got by Miami the next year, and then in the third year totally crushed Florida at our peak.
 
treeplanter said:
Historically and traditionally, the SEC has largely been a finesse conference filled by finesse programs producing finesse teams

Result:
Over a 60 year period, between 1936 and 1995, the SEC produced 11 national champions

{incidentally, the Big 8 also produced 11 national champions during this same 60yr span}

Since the turn of the current century, the SEC has seen a dramatic shift away from finesse football and towards a more physical genetic team makeup and style of play

Result:
Over the last 27 years, between 1999 and 2025, the SEC has produced 14 national champions

The catalyst for this shift in fundamental SEC football philosophy?
In my opinion, it was none other than the Nebraska Cornhuskers!

The 1995 Huskers, en route to the national championship, decimated the Florida Gators 62-24

How did Florida respond?
The Gators went out and won their 1st ever national title the very next season in 1996

The 1997 Huskers became national champs by virtue of a 42-17 blowout win over the Tennessee Volunteers

How did Tennessee respond?
The Vols went out and, the very next season, won their 1st national title in nearly 50 years

UF and UT witnessed, first hand, the physicality of Husker football
UF and UT worked hard to emulate this physicality moving forward

It paid off for both UF and UT

Soon after, the rest of the conference made it a point to follow suit…

Agree?
Disagree?
Click to expand...

Agree. No question IMO.
 
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