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There's admittedly a luck element to the whole thing. Suh, for example, has been an all-pro, dominant player across the league for for his entire career... who happened to get stuck on crappy teams. The Rams almost pulled it off, but not quite. I don't blame the guy for wanting to get that title.

Brady, on the other hand, lucked out in exactly the opposite way. You can argue that he's the best quarterback in history, but he's typically been surrounded by elite level RBs, WRs and TEs, plus a coach who knows how to take advantage of those talents.

Elite WR's? Other than Moss for what 1 or 2 years, he has had some small slot type guys like Edelman, Amendola. Not exactly Jerry Rice and Jonathan Taylor
 
Elite WR's? Other than Moss for what 1 or 2 years, he has had some small slot type guys like Edelman, Amendola. Not exactly Jerry Rice and Jonathan Taylor
What TB has enjoyed almost his entire career with the Pats was an extremely good offensive line. If not he would have NEVER made this many years as a QB in the NFL. He is not mobile and requires good protection to be effective. That's not just this season it's been every season imo. It's going to real interesting to see what the Chiefs can do to not give Brady the time he needs to be comfortable in the pocket. Brady is for sure one of the best that's ever played in the NFL. I simply hate hanging GOAT on any player because there's so many factors that can be debated.
 
I think just think have no proof but the Manning issue is a mental health one.

As far as WR room I don't think we have as high of talent without Robinson Spielman etc however the talent that is there is close and more of it.
 





There's admittedly a luck element to the whole thing. Suh, for example, has been an all-pro, dominant player across the league for for his entire career... who happened to get stuck on crappy teams. The Rams almost pulled it off, but not quite. I don't blame the guy for wanting to get that title.

Brady, on the other hand, lucked out in exactly the opposite way. You can argue that he's the best quarterback in history, but he's typically been surrounded by elite level RBs, WRs and TEs, plus a coach who knows how to take advantage of those talents.
Suh’s production has dropped off for the better part of the past 5 years. Still a good player, but it’s no longer 2011, 2012. His best years are in the rear view mirror.
 


What TB has enjoyed almost his entire career with the Pats was an extremely good offensive line. If not he would have NEVER made this many years as a QB in the NFL. He is not mobile and requires good protection to be effective. That's not just this season it's been every season imo. It's going to real interesting to see what the Chiefs can do to not give Brady the time he needs to be comfortable in the pocket. Brady is for sure one of the best that's ever played in the NFL. I simply hate hanging GOAT on any player because there's so many factors that can be debated.
agreed and I wouldn't say he had great RB's either, usually it was RB by committee. Of course Gronk could arguably be the best TE of all time?
 


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