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Rank your level of enthusiasm of CFB versus ten years ago

Which number best reflects your level of enthusiasm versus 2016, a decade ago?

  • 1. No interest in CFP whatsoever; I'm on HMax for other reasons

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • 2. Significantly less interested than 10 years ago

    Votes: 27 37.5%

  • 3. Somewhat less interested than 10 years ago

    Votes: 23 31.9%

  • 4. About the same as 10 years ago

    Votes: 18 25.0%

  • 5. Somewhat more interested than 10 years ago

    Votes: 3 4.2%

  • 6. Significantly more interested than 10 years ago

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    72
  • Poll closed .
goodnterribles said:
You do it by putting someone in charge that actually has enforcement power. Sit down with all the conferences and teams and come up with guardrails for NIL, transfer portal, eligibility, etc. Hammer out the rules and then enforce them every time Lane Kiffin tries to do something.
Until that happens, this will continue to get worse.
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You are making sense of this. No one is going to put up with logic and common sense.

With all of the money being thrown around, someone is going to feel "I'm being cheated! I demand my day in court!" Sometimes they have a point, sometimes they don't (in my opinion).

I agree. I see this continue to get worse till it implodes.
 
When there is D-Bags like Lane Kiffin and media advocates defending his behavior it’s hard to be passionate about the sport.
 
Farmer Jake said:
You are making sense of this. No one is going to put up with logic and common sense.

With all of the money being thrown around, someone is going to feel "I'm being cheated! I demand my day in court!" Sometimes they have a point, sometimes they don't (in my opinion).

I agree. I see this continue to get worse till it implodes.
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One of 2 things will happen: someone will get their act together and organize D1 CFB like the NFL with a commissioner, and come up with a set of bylaws that all members must follow. And make it ironclad enough so that schools can't go to a small town judge to get restraining orders that help them.

Or.......it will implode and a possible outcome of that is smaller, regional conferences again.
 
NUinID said:
Not that Skippy Neuheisel was really defending Lane, but as a guy that has been through law school and had passed the bar, he says that the anitrust stuff has some legs to stand on legally.
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I just dont see how LSU ultimately wins this. These guys were essentially professionals, even if only for a brief time. The timing of the 5 year eligibility rulings sucks for those players, but that doesnt change that they should not be allowed to play. Once this gets to a higher court, I cant imagine this changes anything. Lane is just trying to get any advantage he can.
 
NUinID said:
Not that Skippy Neuheisel was really defending Lane, but as a guy that has been through law school and had passed the bar, he says that the anitrust stuff has some legs to stand on legally.
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Basically, the is a case of the Anti-Trust Chickens coming home to roost for College Football. College Football forever fought the legal concept that players were employees. So no unionization, no workmen's compensation. They took and denied compensation for NIL. They banned price competition for labor. When the dam finally broke, they had no recourse.

Essentially the House settlement makes them employees, well, kind of, they are free to get NIL, there is no control over enforcing contracts (other than litigation). So the NCAA is now in the worst of all worlds.

Unionization is absolutely critical for a sport league, because under our anti-trust laws the only legal way for any employer, and more importantly a group of employers in a sports league to limit labor completion is through a negotiated Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA). The NFL's CBA allows the draft, it allows them to limit the draft to players out of high school more than three years (before that expired NCAA eligibility), it allows them to put a spending cap on player, it limits free agency (it exists, but only for players in the league four years or more) some of what is called NIL goes to the team, but players can do their own NIL and mostly get it at some level. One thing for sure, I don't see how the NCAA can limit players to any sort of career length. If they want to play 10 years and the school want them, I don't see how that can be legally limited (I can't see a CBA passing a vote with that in it).

Here is a clue, there was not always an NCAA and many schools did what they wanted to a certain degree (especially pre WW-II). Conferences were the start of trying to limit players. Eventually, administrators formed the NCAA and started ratcheting down on the players. BTW, I read a tOSU book on Woody Hayes, in the 1950's the B1G did not allow scholarships, but every player had a paying job at the University that covered what they needed to enroll and play.
 
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I was basically between 2 and 3, but went with 3. To a certain degree, my interest was already reduced 10 years ago.

I think there is too much mobility, but that is the NCAA's fault; however, I think the old ways were not fair either. I think the redoing of the conferences and consolidation into mega conferences has affected my interest as much as mobility.

I am older, I have grandchildren, I am 40 years removed from Nebraska. The product on the field has been atrocious. I will watch games when I don't have a conflict, otherwise, I tape and watch it. I will watch the aTm Aggies on the same basis. I sometimes watch KSU, ISU and Texas Tech when they are playing a game I find interesting.
 
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Yep, interest has definitely waned. Drastically. There are only 9 people logged into this site at 4:30 pm, 4 days before the season opener. Not a lot going on in here at all. Quiet. That should tell you all you need to know. I’ve not seen it this bad, and I’ve been here a long time.
 
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Husker In Oklahoma said:
Yep, interest has definitely waned. Drastically. There are only 9 people logged into this site at 4:30 pm, 4 days before the season opener. Not a lot going on in here at all. Quiet. That should tell you all you need to know. I’ve not seen it this bad, and I’ve been here a long time.
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If NU was a CFP contender, this place would be packed regardless of the state of college football.
 
goodnterribles said:
If NU was a CFP contender, this place would be packed regardless of the state of college football.
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I’m not arguing. I probably agree. That said, they’ve had some minimal improvement, and it wasn’t nearly this slow two years ago. More factors now in play IMO. There is a game in 4 days and there are 10 people in here. That’s very weak.
 
goodnterribles said:
I haven't seen a single media member defending Lane with this last one. It's possible he pushed too far.
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There have been CFB analysts toeing the line between condemnation and support …

“not Lane’s fault if CFB leadership can’t get their stuff together”.

“He’s committed to following the rules whatever they are and if the courts decide it’s ok then all he’s doing is what is allowed”.
 
Husker In Oklahoma said:
I’m not arguing. I probably agree. That said, they’ve had some minimal improvement, and it wasn’t nearly this slow two years ago. More factors now in play IMO. There is a game in 4 days and there are 10 people in here. That’s very weak.
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Fair point. A lot of factors involved. For me, its really hard to get fired up about football when it's 98 outside with a million percent humidity.
 
wcbsas said:
There have been CFB analysts toeing the line between condemnation and support …

“not Lane’s fault if CFB leadership can’t get their stuff together”.

“He’s committed to following the rules whatever they are and if the courts decide it’s ok then all he’s doing is what is allowed”.
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Well that's disappointing.
 
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