Agreed, and one more thing: when the short passing game to the TEs is working, don't move away from it for the rest of the game.
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Agreed, and one more thing: when the short passing game to the TEs is working, don't move away from it for the rest of the game.
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Fantastic write up.
I will quibble with you only to say that although the defense is our best unit, it is far from successful.
Its main goals are to prevent scoring (duh) and to cause turnovers to help set up scoring opportunities for the offense.
This latter point is critical given the offensive deficits seen in the last two years.
So let's not be opinion based but look at the numbers:
2020:
Turnovers: Created only 5 INT and Two fumbles (-11 on the year)
Scorring defense: 29.3 points per game (64 th Nationally)
2019:
Turnovers: 9 INTS, 10 fumbles (-4)
Scoring defense: 27.8 points per game (67th)
2018:
Turnovers: 11 INT, 9 fumbles (-1)
Scoring defense: 31.3 (88)
So, while some "progress" has been made in scoring defense there is not a significant steady downward trend in points per game allowed.
But even more importantly to me, there is a lack of created turnovers that will improve turnover margin and set up the offense for success.
This, combined with the improvement desired in Special Teams, is the only way that a winning season is possible in 2021.
There is no evidence that the current staff is focused on any of the things you have mentioned ***, nor the things I have brought up to further bring the defense to the needed level of success that winning requires.
GBR
Fantastic write up.
I will quibble with you only to say that although the defense is our best unit, it is far from successful.
Its main goals are to prevent scoring (duh) and to cause turnovers to help set up scoring opportunities for the offense.
This latter point is critical given the offensive deficits seen in the last two years.
So let's not be opinion based but look at the numbers:
2020:
Turnovers: Created only 5 INT and Two fumbles (-11 on the year)
Scorring defense: 29.3 points per game (64 th Nationally)
2019:
Turnovers: 9 INTS, 10 fumbles (-4)
Scoring defense: 27.8 points per game (67th)
2018:
Turnovers: 11 INT, 9 fumbles (-1)
Scoring defense: 31.3 (88)
So, while some "progress" has been made in scoring defense there is not a significant steady downward trend in points per game allowed.
But even more importantly to me, there is a lack of created turnovers that will improve turnover margin and set up the offense for success.
This, combined with the improvement desired in Special Teams, is the only way that a winning season is possible in 2021.
There is no evidence that the current staff is focused on any of the things you have mentioned ***, nor the things I have brought up to further bring the defense to the needed level of success that winning requires.
GBR
I agree with everything here. I see progress on defense but is it good enough? I don't know. This team keeps underachieving and getting worse by the year. Staff changes or philosophies have to change. There is no excuse for continuing poor special teams play. Fixable stuff is not being fixed. Hopefully the AD and other influential people start pressuring Scott about better results.***
Fantastic write up.
I will quibble with you only to say that although the defense is our best unit, it is far from successful.
Its main goals are to prevent scoring (duh) and to cause turnovers to help set up scoring opportunities for the offense.
This latter point is critical given the offensive deficits seen in the last two years.
So let's not be opinion based but look at the numbers:
2020:
Turnovers: Created only 5 INT and Two fumbles (-11 on the year)
Scorring defense: 29.3 points per game (64 th Nationally)
2019:
Turnovers: 9 INTS, 10 fumbles (-4)
Scoring defense: 27.8 points per game (67th)
2018:
Turnovers: 11 INT, 9 fumbles (-1)
Scoring defense: 31.3 (88)
So, while some "progress" has been made in scoring defense there is not a significant steady downward trend in points per game allowed.
But even more importantly to me, there is a lack of created turnovers that will improve turnover margin and set up the offense for success.
This, combined with the improvement desired in Special Teams, is the only way that a winning season is possible in 2021.
There is no evidence that the current staff is focused on any of the things you have mentioned ***, nor the things I have brought up to further bring the defense to the needed level of success that winning requires.
GBR
Pretty much. I don't think it's a matter of cleaning up a few things here and there though that would be nice. I come back to the offensive scheme. We've been trying to implement a finessed based style for years now with little success. Too complicated for the perpetual youth that we seem to have now. Too many mistakes and "lack of execution" due to complexity. A simplified north-south run and passing game over the horizontal stuff needs to happen but it won't. Yeah, basically Wisconsin which was Nebraska of long ago.
Thanks-I missed that.
We have a coach problem, which one is yet to be determined, especially since no changes were made.
I’ve said it before, and this is not a hit on Scott to be rude, it’s just facts. Results speak for themselves. I can sum up our entire issue in one sentence. Until you’re willing to pay for the best, be ready to accept mediocre results. My solution is going to the top 5 (maybe 10) coaches in CFB and offering them close to a blank check (within reason obviously) to come to Nebraska. Worked out pretty good for Texas A/M. Criticize it all you want, but deep down, that is the solution.
Good write up ***.
Maybe Urban Myer can provide some insight. Even if some may not like the guy he has experience/success that should not be ignored!
Urban Meyer has critical advice for struggling football teams (247sports.com)
"Every time I've had a team struggle -- every time -- it's fallen into one of three issues:
No. 1, it's some kind of trust issue. The players don't trust the coach. The coach doesn't trust the players. Or, it's awful if the players don't trust each other.
No. 2, it's a dysfunctional work environment where the expectation is very high, but we don't work hard. The coach has to be really clear with his team that it will lead to anger, frustration and disappointment because we want to win a championship. But I've got bad news, guys: We're not working hard ... Your work ethic must exceed or meet your expectations. That's a good environment.
The last one is real obvious: You've got a selfish team, man. Football is an unselfish sport. You've got to do the nasty. If I'm a running back, I've got to go and protect my quarterback. You don't always get to go carry the ball. Sometimes you have to go running down a kickoff 22 miles per hour and throw yourself into someone going 15 miles per hour the other way. That's not fun, so why would you do that? You love your team and teammates."
This is a Team Culture Issue!
Maybe Urban Myer can provide some insight. Even if some may not like the guy he has experience/success that should not be ignored!
Urban Meyer has critical advice for struggling football teams (247sports.com)
"Every time I've had a team struggle -- every time -- it's fallen into one of three issues:
No. 1, it's some kind of trust issue. The players don't trust the coach. The coach doesn't trust the players. Or, it's awful if the players don't trust each other.
No. 2, it's a dysfunctional work environment where the expectation is very high, but we don't work hard. The coach has to be really clear with his team that it will lead to anger, frustration and disappointment because we want to win a championship. But I've got bad news, guys: We're not working hard ... Your work ethic must exceed or meet your expectations. That's a good environment.
The last one is real obvious: You've got a selfish team, man. Football is an unselfish sport. You've got to do the nasty. If I'm a running back, I've got to go and protect my quarterback. You don't always get to go carry the ball. Sometimes you have to go running down a kickoff 22 miles per hour and throw yourself into someone going 15 miles per hour the other way. That's not fun, so why would you do that? You love your team and teammates."
This is a Team Culture Issue!
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I don't know if Frost can do this, but seems like a focus on special teams will help a lot of ills. Working on special teams can provide a method to work on discipline and teamwork.
Frost was a DB in the pros, and has been a defensive coach in the past. I think he's been a member of special teams in the pros, all this stuff should be in his bag of tricks. We'll see.
Frost was a DB in the pros, and has been a defensive coach in the past. I think he's been a member of special teams in the pros, all this stuff should be in his bag of tricks. We'll see.
Quoting (bolding and chopping) these three, which I all read to be making the same point:
There's some subjective things from long ago that are coloring my response, but there's a large part that is questioning whether there is a willingness. Knowing what hasn't worked, is a good start, recognizing what needs to change, and acknowledging what needs to change go along with that.
The willingness to follow through is what's concerning. We've been hearing it more or less, in some fashion or another for 3 years...but really haven't been seeing it...at least on the offensive side of the ball, and then there's the unexplainable attrition that's not exclusive to the offense.
There's some subjective things from long ago that are coloring my response, but there's a large part that is questioning whether there is a willingness. Knowing what hasn't worked, is a good start, recognizing what needs to change, and acknowledging what needs to change go along with that.
The willingness to follow through is what's concerning. We've been hearing it more or less, in some fashion or another for 3 years...but really haven't been seeing it...at least on the offensive side of the ball, and then there's the unexplainable attrition that's not exclusive to the offense.
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AD Moos is a football guy.
He presided over a "rebuild" a WSU that took three years and then got going.
Do you know, other than publicly supporting Frost, what if any impact/advise/input he has provided to the program?
He has to have seen and made an analysis very similar to yours about what has kept DONU from a winning record the last three years and what is required to change that for 2021.
And he has to be seeing whether that are changes being made that can lead to winning in 2021, so would he give advice if he didnt see those changes?
GBR
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I could see all 3 of these being possible right now. On offense it has the feel of a trust issue. The expectation in Lincoln is high every year and the team even said after the Illinois game they didn't practice hard enough that week. Selfish could have been created by trying to keep Mo, leaving Cam at center when he was clearly struggling, etc.
I really hope Frost can turn things around but there are a lot of negative things happening on his side of the ball and he seems to be trying to downplay it in the media. I hope behind closed doors he knows there are real issues that need to be fixed on his side.
Nope. Can't use for 2021
It seems like Frost has some of that Pelini disease. He thinks he's all that and doesn't see that changes need to be made, and... he surrounds himself largely with friends and yes men. We are now on year three where we've said that Frost needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and I don't see any evidence that it is happening. I hope I'm wrong but I have a suspicion we will be having exactly the same conversation one year from now.
Another thing. I thought that Frost was a players coach. Kids loved playing for him. Instead kids are running, not walking, away from him in droves. There is a problem here. It's one thing if you lose key pieces every few years. We are losing them every single year. There is something going on here that we just aren't aware of.
Another thing. I thought that Frost was a players coach. Kids loved playing for him. Instead kids are running, not walking, away from him in droves. There is a problem here. It's one thing if you lose key pieces every few years. We are losing them every single year. There is something going on here that we just aren't aware of.
