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utsker said:
looks pretty damn cool to me...the kids will love it...great for recruiting tools.
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Honestly, we are not a flashy program, and are not likely to recruit the same types of kids as an Oregon. Oregon has created a brand that is psuedo-pro sports. And, it's worked for them as they had little to no tradition to begin with. I think sooner than later that type of program is going to get itself in trouble. They are the new Miami, but without all the MNC's
 

SealBeachHusker said:
Honestly, we are not a flashy program, and are not likely to recruit the same types of kids as an Oregon. Oregon has created a brand that is psuedo-pro sports. And, it's worked for them as they had little to no tradition to begin with. I think sooner than later that type of program is going to get itself in trouble. They are the new Miami, but without all the MNC's
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???...garuantee that Oregon recruits work just as hard and have as much dedication as Nebraska recruits
 
unmartin said:
???...garuantee that Oregon recruits work just as hard and have as much dedication as Nebraska recruits
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Never said otherwise, but if you don't think that schools as well as athletes have their own personalities then you are being naive. My point was that a kid into "flashy" programs is probably more inclined to be swayed by a darth vader mask than a kid attracted to a "traditional power" program. Doesn't mean both kids aren't dedicated athletes.
 
SealBeachHusker said:
Never said otherwise, but if you don't think that schools as well as athletes have their own personalities then you are being naive. My point was that a kid into "flashy" programs is probably more inclined to be swayed by a darth vader mask than a kid attracted to a "traditional power" program. Doesn't mean both kids aren't dedicated athletes.
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But, why do we only want to have the kids who are attracted to a "traditional power" program and not those drawn to "flashy"? I've been a Nebraska fan for a long time, and I love the traditions at Nebraska, but I think this batch of Oregon unis are pretty cool. I'll bet you would get a similar response from a majority of the young men currently playing for the Huskers.
 



SealBeachHusker said:
Never said otherwise, but if you don't think that schools as well as athletes have their own personalities then you are being naive. My point was that a kid into "flashy" programs is probably more inclined to be swayed by a darth vader mask than a kid attracted to a "traditional power" program. Doesn't mean both kids aren't dedicated athletes.
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imo.."traditional power" is not what it used to be and that goes for all schools that could be classified as a "traditional power"
 
HuskerJAG said:
But, why do we only want to have the kids who are attracted to a "traditional power" program and not those drawn to "flashy"? I've been a Nebraska fan for a long time, and I love the traditions at Nebraska, but I think this batch of Oregon unis are pretty cool. I'll bet you would get a similar response from a majority of the young men currently playing for the Huskers.
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When I was younger people were infatuated with Miami, and their flamboyant bright colors, and braggart stylings...everyone said it was the new style of college football. And, yes it was good for their recruiting. But, for everyone one of those kids or fans there was still dozens more who thought it was in poor taste and not good for college ball. I always thought their colors were ridiculous and the players often embarrassing. A new helmet? Cool. Entirely contrived and overly stylized uniforms? Just stupid. Our strength is our tradition. If we sell that out for access to some recruits we become a wannabe IMO. Georgia looked stupid, Ohio State looked like they were wanting to play "me too" with Michigan State. But, for those that were already ugly or we didn't care about, flashy uni's were cool (ASU, Okie State, MSU).
 
SealBeachHusker said:
When I was younger people were infatuated with Miami, and their flamboyant bright colors, and braggart stylings...everyone said it was the new style of college football. And, yes it was good for their recruiting. But, for everyone one of those kids or fans there was still dozens more who thought it was in poor taste and not good for college ball. I always thought their colors were ridiculous and the players often embarrassing. A new helmet? Cool. Entirely contrived and overly stylized uniforms? Just stupid. Our strength is our tradition. If we sell that out for access to some recruits we become a wannabe IMO. Georgia looked stupid, Ohio State looked like they were wanting to play "me too" with Michigan State. But, for those that were already ugly or we didn't care about, flashy uni's were cool (ASU, Okie State, MSU).
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Our memories of the same era could not be more different. For starters, I recall precisely zero conversation regarding Miami's "flamboyant" uniforms. They had two unis - one home and one away - just like everyone else at that time. And orange unis were hardly uncommon or flashy.

Nobody wanted to emulate Miami's "braggart stylings." On the contrary, rules were created to specifically to stop them. The only thing other fans envied was Miami's undeniable athleticism. In short, the anology you are going for - that Oregon is the new Miami - is baseless. Oregon has more in common with Nebraska than Miami (eg, bottom half of the 50 states in terms of population, very little competition from pro sports).

I haven't heard anybody suggest we should change our colors to orange or green. We are talking about adding a couple of altnernate unis that woud give the kids something to get excited about. And if you think the appeal of the alternate unis is limited to some bizarro subset of "flashy" athletes, watch the Ohio video where the new jerseys are introduced. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/862504-ohio-football-video-of-new-black-uniforms-player-reaction
 
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The Big Red Lebowski said:
Our memories of the same era could not be more different. For starters, I recall precisely zero conversation regarding Miami's "flamboyant" uniforms. They had two unis - one home and one away - just like everyone else at that time.

Nobody wanted to emulate Miami's "braggart stylings." On the contrary, rules were created to specifically to stop them. The only thing other fans envied was Miami's undeniable athleticism. In short, the anology you are going for - that Oregon is the new Miami - is baseless. Oregon has more in common with Nebraska than Miami (eg, bottom half of the 50 states in terms of population, very little competition from pro sports).

I haven't heard anyboy suggest we should change our colors to orange or green. We are talking about adding a couple of altnernate unis that woud give the kids something to get excited about. And if you think the appeal of the alternate unis is limited to some bizarro subset of "flashy" athletes, watch the Ohio video where the new jerseys are introduced. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/862504-ohio-football-video-of-new-black-uniforms-player-reaction
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Perhaps living here in Southern California where the gaudy colors of Miami were sported by every wannabe hoodrat or bandwagon fan left my view a little different than yours. Miami openly touted the flashy "Miami" lifestyle (Miami Vice, beach parties, 2 Live Crew) as a recruiting tool. Also, I see the type of Oregon recruit that typically comes out of our local big high school programs. The old U and the new O have a lot in common.

I agree, our visions of "the U" and Oregon are very different. I'd also say your comparison of Oregon and Nebraska is almost laughable.

http://www.4thandforever.com/blog/2010/06/09/u-of-uho/
Talk about a program that has hit off-season rock bottom, the Oregon Ducks are the new Miami Hurricanes,
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http://www.sbrforum.com/college-football/news/ncaa-football-odds-2010-oregon-ducks-a-15095/
Move over, University of Miami. Say hello to the Oregon Ducks. The Hurricanes made headlines in the late 1980s and early 1990s for their...
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http://www.5thquartersports.com/featured/5-dirtiest-programs-college-football/
Top 5 Dirtiest Programs - Oregon #5

As for the player reaction video you posted...you again used an example of a mediocre program with no history. It behooves them to create an excitement or an advantage in an area like clothing to differentiate themselves. Does not make as much sense for us to do the same.
 




SealBeachHusker said:
When I was younger people were infatuated with Miami, and their flamboyant bright colors, and braggart stylings...everyone said it was the new style of college football. And, yes it was good for their recruiting. But, for everyone one of those kids or fans there was still dozens more who thought it was in poor taste and not good for college ball. I always thought their colors were ridiculous and the players often embarrassing. A new helmet? Cool. Entirely contrived and overly stylized uniforms? Just stupid. Our strength is our tradition. If we sell that out for access to some recruits we become a wannabe IMO. Georgia looked stupid, Ohio State looked like they were wanting to play "me too" with Michigan State. But, for those that were already ugly or we didn't care about, flashy uni's were cool (ASU, Okie State, MSU).
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I agree that Miami of old, and certain programs today, attract a certain type of player. I recall disliking Miami for a variety of reasons, and one of the prominent ones was the braggart attitude, along with the all-to-often accompanying thug persona. My distaste for Miami still lingers, even though many have tried to change that perception/attitude.

What I'm contending, however, is that the incorporation of alternate unis does not mean we would be going after the thugish student-athletes. Instead, as I said earlier, I'll bet a poll of current Husker athletes would find the majority would love some cool alternate uniforms. I'm not saying we should go with garish uniforms (nothing like some of Maryland's new unis, or some of Oregon's past unis), but a nice combat uniform, incorporating our school colors (or, dare I say, even a touch of black). Our recruiting style wouldn't change, and the type of athlete/young man we target would remain the same. Additionally, the coaching staff would continue to preach responsibility/accountability. I'm also not saying we want to capture those athletes who would base their entire collegiate decision on uniforms. But, when you consider the number of factors that young men have to weigh when making their decisions, you want to eliminate as many "negatives" and add as many "positives" to their lists. This one to me is one that high school/college students may consider as an indicator that the school and coaching staff understand them and their generation.
 
BTW: We've had our share of thugs, so it seems kinda hypocritical to bash other teams for it.
 



SealBeachHusker said:
When I was younger people were infatuated with Miami, and their flamboyant bright colors, and braggart stylings...everyone said it was the new style of college football. And, yes it was good for their recruiting. But, for everyone one of those kids or fans there was still dozens more who thought it was in poor taste and not good for college ball. I always thought their colors were ridiculous and the players often embarrassing. A new helmet? Cool. Entirely contrived and overly stylized uniforms? Just stupid. Our strength is our tradition. If we sell that out for access to some recruits we become a wannabe IMO. Georgia looked stupid, Ohio State looked like they were wanting to play "me too" with Michigan State. But, for those that were already ugly or we didn't care about, flashy uni's were cool (ASU, Okie State, MSU).
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I remember Tom Osborne complaining about Miami's "smoke" entrance to the bowl games. And then a few years later, the Huskers added the Tunnel Walk music montage. I've always had the impression that the impetus for ours came from them. Psychological advantages can be had in sports. Oregon's uniforms help create a mystique about their program. Good for them. If bad behavior follows, then shame on them. But I don't think it's been shown there's any correlation between image and behavior. USC was cheating in the same old uniforms, as were Alabama and Ohio State.

I don't see much connection, in any case, to the uniforms. Our tradition is not our uniforms. Our tradition is Integrety, winning, fan support and adopting new strategies and practices (Nutrition, weight-training, facilities, walk-ons, offensive and defensive complexities, etc.). If updating or altering the uniforms can provide another tangible benefit, either in recruiting or marketing, and not adversely affect our brand, then why not?

To make a comparison using autos, consider the post-2005 Mustang redesign. These Mustangs retain, or reintroduce, the iconic elements of the late 1960s Mustangs. Contrast that with the 1980s Mustangs, which pretty much abandoned all the aesthetic elements that made Mustangs great. They looked like long Ford Escorts. So, how the uniforms would be redesigned would be of critical importance. What elements in our unis make them iconic? I'd say definitely the plain N on the helmet. What else?
 

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