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Nebraska vs LA Tech Game Thread (9/23/23)

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Sims has more wiggle.
Doesn't matter when your upside doesn't greatly outweigh your downside. Sims might be more "athletic" and have a better arm than Haarberg, but he gives the ball away to the other team far too often . . . and then he also doesn't generate the points to offset the points that come off his giveaways.

Haarberg takes better care of the ball and he's starting to show that he can lead the team to TDs.
 

While I have to credit Ohio State for remaining composed and pulling that victory from the jaws of defeat, I wasn't overly impressed with the Buckeyes -- offensively especially. Their defense, however, was impressive.

I won't be shocked if Ohio State finishes 3rd in the East this year. I'd personally like to see Penn State win it -- and I think this is the best team in Happy Valley in quite some time. For now, Michigan is still the favorite.
They did me a solid center though, my boss is a domer
 
I was shocked to see Minnesota blow 21-0 and 31-10 leads to Northwestern. Our loss to Minnesota certainly doesn't look any "better" right now, and Northwestern no longer looks like a near certain win.

None of our previous opponents distinguished themselves today. CU got destroyed by Oregon, and Northern Illionois dropped a home game against Tulsa.

How did we only score 10 points vs. Minnesota and 7 points vs CU in the first 59:50 of that game? "Turnovers" is part of the answer, but still.
Because our OC is a terrible play-caller. His play calls are all over the place and even when we do get into a rhythm he goes away from it or calls a play that disrupts the rhythm. Seems like every HC we hire seems to bring a buddy or two along for the ride and it eventually leads to their own downfall.
 
Because our OC is a terrible play-caller. His play calls are all over the place and even when we do get into a rhythm he goes away from it or calls a play that disrupts the rhythm. Seems like every HC we hire seems to bring a buddy or two along for the ride and it eventually leads to their own downfall.
Satt has a bigger bag of tricks than Whip did . . . but I agree that he hits on things that seem to be working and then he inexplicably goes away from it entirely and gets bogged down (usually by getting too clever by half or going back to the dropback pass with QBs, o-line and receivers who just aren't wired for it).

La Tech was having all sorts of issues with the option looks but Satt mothballed it for long stretches. Keep running it til they stop it. And build off it.

Where is the great old play where you run option to one side and have the QB pull up and throw to a TE? La Tech would have bit on that hard yesterday.
 
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Doesn't matter when your upside doesn't greatly outweigh your downside. Sims might be more "athletic" and have a better arm than Haarberg, but he gives the ball away to the other team far too often . . . and then he also doesn't generate the points to offset the points that come off his giveaways.

Haarberg takes better care of the ball and he's starting to show that he can lead the team to TDs.
against who? I'm sorry, but I think you are comparing apples to oranges as to competition they played against.

Regardless, we'll be lucky to get 100 yds against Michigan. HH hasn't thrown an interception, but he certainly could have with his overthrows and misses to the inside. His TD pass to Fidone yesterday, who was wide open, was a great catch because it was overthrown. He hasn't fumbled, which I like, but if I look at it honestly, Sims is as good a runner and a better thrower, imo. Neither is elite.
 
against who? I'm sorry, but I think you are comparing apples to oranges as to competition they played against.

Regardless, we'll be lucky to get 100 yds against Michigan. HH hasn't thrown an interception, but he certainly could have with his overthrows and misses to the inside. His TD pass to Fidone yesterday, who was wide open, was a great catch because it was overthrown. He hasn't fumbled, which I like, but if I look at it honestly, Sims is as good a runner and a better thrower, imo. Neither is elite.
What we saw against CU and Minny is what Sims has done his entire career. He's one of the top turnover machines. And CU's defense is absolutely terrible. NU is the only team that hasn't lit them up completely this year. La Tech and NIU probably have better defenses than CU.

The difference is the QB not giving the ball to the other team once per qtr on average.
 
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Satt has a bigger bag of tricks than Whip did . . . but I agree that he hits on things that seem to be working and then he inexplicably goes away from it entirely and gets bogged down (usually by getting too clever by half or going back to the dropback pass with QBs, o-line and receivers who just aren't wired for it).

La Tech was having all sorts of issues with the option looks but Satt mothballed it for long stretches. Keep running it til they stop it. And build off it.

Where is the great old play where you run option to one side and have the QB pull up and throw to a TE? La Tech would have bit on that hard yesterday.
Just a thought: As fans, we are looking at each play in context of a given game / team. Satt and Rhule are looking at this for the future and getting better. It seems to me they are working hard to develop these QBs to run an offense that can win, which includes a need to pass. Many times there are receivers open, but neither Sims or Haarberg see them or are getting pressured. I think they may want the reps now. Like I said, just a thought about these earlier games.
 




What we saw against CU and Minny is what Sims has done his entire career. He's one of the top turnover machines. And CU's defense is absolutely terrible. NU is the only team that hasn't lit them up completely this year. La Tech and NIU probably have better defenses than CU.

The difference is the QB not giving the ball to the other team once per qtr on average.
not arguing the turnovers, but I am challenging your assertion Haarberg has demonstrated he can lead the O to touchdowns. I think that is yet to be seen. NIUs front was good, the rest not so much. La Tech is horrible against the run, but tougher against the pass. CU D is horrible, no doubt, and Sims absolutely sucked both games with unforced errors.

Still, against Michigan, I believe we have zero chance with Harrberg and a 2% chance with Sims if we catch his fire and not his rain.

It's ok we disagree, thats what makes a season fun when we still suck.
 
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What we saw against CU and Minny is what Sims has done his entire career. He's one of the top turnover machines. And CU's defense is absolutely terrible. NU is the only team that hasn't lit them up completely this year. La Tech and NIU probably have better defenses than CU.

The difference is the QB not giving the ball to the other team once per qtr on average.
I wouldn't put that completely on Sims. Our offense is still searching for identity.
Turnovers yes, production, no. We are better game 4 than games one and two. We ran when we needed to against La Tech or No Ill. for that matter.
HH needs to learn to pass better, he got some of that yesterday. This staff is known to develop players, imo thats what we were seeing yesterday.
 



I’ve seen some critical comments of him. But tell me, if he was still here, would he be in the active rotation?
Probably but due to how the room is right now. We seem to lack playmakers at WR/slot/etc. I heard, on a podcast last night after the game, that Malachi Coleman started but he is such non-factor that I can't even confirm he was on the field. Seems our WR types can't hardly get any separation, besides Kemp. Our TE's are doing much better but that is even hit and miss. There are a few WR's that portalled out that would probably be in the rotation, but, to be honest, at this point of the season, and with the results they are getting, that isn't a real accomplishment.
 
Probably but due to how the room is right now. We seem to lack playmakers at WR/slot/etc. I heard, on a podcast last night after the game, that Malachi Coleman started but he is such non-factor that I can't even confirm he was on the field. Seems our WR types can't hardly get any separation, besides Kemp. Our TE's are doing much better but that is even hit and miss. There are a few WR's that portalled out that would probably be in the rotation, but, to be honest, at this point of the season, and with the results they are getting, that isn't a real accomplishment.
The chemistry has to mesh with the play calling, and all has to be learned together from OC to qb to wr.
Not much time for all this yet. As always, its a process. When the lights do come on, and abilities are achieved, it will be far more effective.
 

Because our OC is a terrible play-caller. His play calls are all over the place and even when we do get into a rhythm he goes away from it or calls a play that disrupts the rhythm. Seems like every HC we hire seems to bring a buddy or two along for the ride and it eventually leads to their own downfall.
Absolutely right about every HC since Solich making some bad staff hires that either limited success (in Pelini's case) or helped cause failure (Callahan, Riley, and Frost).

I think Rhule got some of the hires right, but there are question marks with most of the guys on the offensive side. It's year one, but it's ugly on offense.
 
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