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NCAA & Gambling

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The Impaler said:
They were games when he played for Indiana.
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But every game especially from here on out any Interception or fumble or game altering play will be called by fans as him throwing the game or shaving points there is no way around that and he has to live with that pressure and those voices from the stands and message boards for the rest of his career whether college or pro
 
Kilgore Trout said:
I'm sure the judge doesn't view Soresby as being any more special than you or me. Gambling is legal in many cases and I imagine his thinking is Soresby is not disqualified from a legal activity just because he is a football player. I'm no lawyer but only trying to see it objectively how a judge would look at his case. Again I go back to professional sports in this country. The NFL players, I'm sure, are governed on the gambling issue through their CBA, as long as it is legal. They violate it and they are thrown out of the league. Since College football has no such thing as a CBA and if the athlete sticks to the legal side of gambling, neither the schools nor the NCAA have grounds for action, if I'm right.
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You make a good point with the CBA. I just wish judges would use more sense when ruling on something that affects such a large group of people.
 
19D Cav said:
But every game especially from here on out any Interception or fumble or game altering play will be called by fans as him throwing the game or shaving points there is no way around that and he has to live with that pressure and those voices from the stands and message boards for the rest of his career whether college or pro
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Not sure that is a road a player with mental health issues would successfully navigate. I know gambling addiction is a bit different, but i don't see it as being a fun journey.
 
Kilgore Trout said:
I'm sure the judge doesn't view Soresby as being any more special than you or me. Gambling is legal in many cases and I imagine his thinking is Soresby is not disqualified from a legal activity just because he is a football player. I'm no lawyer but only trying to see it objectively how a judge would look at his case. Again I go back to professional sports in this country. The NFL players, I'm sure, are governed on the gambling issue through their CBA, as long as it is legal. They violate it and they are thrown out of the league. Since College football has no such thing as a CBA and if the athlete sticks to the legal side of gambling, neither the schools nor the NCAA have grounds for action, if I'm right.
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Sports betting isn’t legal under the age of 21 so that argument is out. He was doing an illegal act.
 
wcbsas said:
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That's great, but this bill isn't passing as written. And the reason why is the same reason has just been solidified by this ruling and could accelerate BIG and SEC separation.

The bill is well written to me as far as rule making and penalties. However, the poison pill for the BIG/SEC is a ban on mergers that apply only to conferences with over $1 billion. So, it bans action from only these two and allows everyone else to do so. That section also bans granting of television rights that are currently secured by a conference, so a defacto ban of expansion to the BIG or SEC until those contracts expire.

There is just no way these two conferences are going to support rules directed that them, nor give up their right for expansion. They can solve this problem internally by breaking away and get more revenue by doing so, so logically they do just that if that threat would come to fruition.

Cody Campbell is over there begging Congress to get involved. But then pushing for provisions to punish the haves and give to the have nots. So he has already positioned himself in one side of the isle as a wildcard. Now, by not taking action and threatening lawsuits on something everyone sees as a line that has been crossed, he is showing how big the threat of the status quo is.
 
cobfather said:
The fact there are so many prop bets make this ruling concerning. Many of these prop bets could go unnoticed. However, a player making sure he goes over or under the prop number could lead to unintended consequences ( ie losing a game, injury to key player due to improvised play, etc.). Also what is stopping big time boosters from influencing games. "Hey coach, looks like we are outmatched here today. Can you do me a favor and lose by more than 10? If you do that for me, I'll make sure we have enough money for player X next year." or "You should play all the young guys this year, tank out now. Do that for me I'll make sure you have enough money for the transfer portal." The messaging wouldn't be as blunt as I described, but the coach may understand what he needs to do to make his life easier the next year.

So I suppose Dannen's statement not to schedule Texas Tech is his way of saying we got to nip this in the bud. If everyone follows me we can make a huge statement. Even if they don't, he is trying to signal that we won't tolerate those actions at Nebraska.
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Make 'em an offer they can't refuse.
 
Kilgore Trout said:
I'm sure the judge doesn't view Soresby as being any more special than you or me. Gambling is legal in many cases and I imagine his thinking is Soresby is not disqualified from a legal activity just because he is a football player. I'm no lawyer but only trying to see it objectively how a judge would look at his case. Again I go back to professional sports in this country. The NFL players, I'm sure, are governed on the gambling issue through their CBA, as long as it is legal. They violate it and they are thrown out of the league. Since College football has no such thing as a CBA and if the athlete sticks to the legal side of gambling, neither the schools nor the NCAA have grounds for action, if I'm right.
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The court decided that Sorsby would suffer "probable, imminent and irreparable injury" if he were not allowed to participate in college athletics while his case proceeds through the legal system.
CBS Sports
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That's legalese for "if he has to suffer the consequences of his actions, he'll suffer."
 
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