Yes, and also to convey that sense of inevitability.It seems inevitable it will expand. The genie's out of the bottle. I wonder if these larger proposals are out there because that is what ultimately leads to the smaller expansion settlement.
I'm of the opposite view. I've never understood the argument that the playoff made the other bowls worthless. Before there were playoffs, there were lots of bowl games and only one or two had any effect on determining the national champion. Most all bowl games were popular and well-attended. I don't think the playoff has had a negative effect on other bowls; there are other factors involved, like personal finances, popularity of the sport, etc.I don’t know what the number is, but only 4 teams in a playoff, with 130 or so teams, is stupid. I just almost wish they’d just go back to the old bowl system, where maybe as many as 4-5 teams could win it. Remember how much everyone liked to watch all the bowl games? Now no one cares, goes, or watches, unless you’re in the playoff, everything else is irrelevant.
Simply not true. I can recall 5 or 6 New Year’s Day, where going into the day, as many as 5 teams could win the national championship, depending on what happened. Now, all the focus is on just two games, then one. I just find it pretty ridiculous that out of nearly 130 teams, only 4 make a playoff. That just doesn’t even make sense. I also realize, that at this level, you can’t have a 16 team playoff either. Although, if they start getting paid, then play their asses off.I'm of the opposite view. I've never understood the argument that the playoff made the other bowls worthless. Before there were playoffs, there were lots of bowl games and only one or two had any effect on determining the national champion. Most all bowl games were popular and well-attended. I don't think the playoff has had a negative effect on other bowls; there are other factors involved, like personal finances, popularity of the sport, etc.
I’m still a fan of 8 but could listen to arguments for 16. I would like to see four or five super conferences. Make division’s very regional. Example would be Nebraska and it’s old big eight foes maybe mix in Iowa and Arkansas. West Virginia in the Big twelve is stupid. Maybe kick some smaller schools down a level. I would kick Rutgers to the curb. The bowl games are completely meaningless now. All the 6-6 or 5-7 teams are interesting for us rabid football fans but no one else cares. Attendance and tv. Ratings prove that point.Simply not true. I can recall 5 or 6 New Year’s Day, where going into the day, as many as 5 teams could win the national championship, depending on what happened. Now, all the focus is on just two games, then one. I just find it pretty ridiculous that out of nearly 130 teams, only 4 make a playoff. That just doesn’t even make sense. I also realize, that at this level, you can’t have a 16 team playoff either. Although, if they start getting paid, then play their asses off.
I have liked the idea of 12, but the top 4 get a bye (making every game matter), and I’d want the first round to be played on the higher ranked team’s home field. Let’s see how some teams adapt to less than favorable conditions. It’s a part of the NFL playoff process, I think it should be in college as well.
I get that point and it’s valid. I actually think the playoffs make the regular season even more important for more teams. So many teams are out of it by mid season that a ton of regular season games don’t garner much interest. The regular season has become fairly meaningless to 90 percent of the teams. Hell, even the players don’t care as they opt out of late season games and bowl games. It’s only going to get worse. Our best bet to see more meaningful games is to expand the playoffs imo. And it’s still a helluva feat to get into an 8 or 12 team playoff when there are over 100 teams total. Winning a conference title or earning one of a few at large bids is a big deal. To me it just makes the regular season more interesting for a greater number of teams who may have a shot the playoffs. I don’t see it watering down the regular season at all.I like it when the regular season matters. When it's more than just a long prelude to a tournament that all the moderately successful teams get into. When you have to be consistently excellent over an entire season, rather than get hot at the right time. When losing focus at any point has real consequences, upsets matter, and lowly teams can do things of substance that affect the CFB landscape on any given Saturday.
Saban has won 6 titles at 'Bama, but on FOUR of those, they've had a loss during the season. Dropping a game barely affects their chances; they have a built-in mulligan. Teams with top talent now can be on something like cruise control until the end of the season.
Sports is both entertainment & competition, and I know my POV gives more weight to the entertainment aspect than just having it be a pure competition. But ignoring that starts to hollow out the soul of the sport, and I think people underestimate how important that is.
The other bowls have become less relevant. I don’t really think that’s debatable. When you have more and more players opting out of bowl games it’s hard to argue that those games are particularly relevant. The Oklahoma vs Florida bowl game is a prime example. Football purists like myself (or my former self I guess) would contend that should be a marquee game. Two powerhouse programs battling it out in a bowl game. And it was a joke because so many players opted out it wasn’t even the same teams that played throughout the season. When the players don’t care it’s tough for fans to care.I'm of the opposite view. I've never understood the argument that the playoff made the other bowls worthless. Before there were playoffs, there were lots of bowl games and only one or two had any effect on determining the national champion. Most all bowl games were popular and well-attended. I don't think the playoff has had a negative effect on other bowls; there are other factors involved, like personal finances, popularity of the sport, etc.
I think it puts more significance on the conference title. I loved the old bowl structure but it’s dead. The bowls they put on now are sad and meaningless. Plus if they regionalized the divisions it would make for more excitement. I would much rather play Missouri, Kansas, Iowa , Iowa St every year.I get that point and it’s valid. I actually think the playoffs make the regular season even more important for more teams. So many teams are out of it by mid season that a ton of regular season games don’t garner much interest. The regular season has become fairly meaningless to 90 percent of the teams. Hell, even the players don’t care as they opt out of late season games and bowl games. It’s only going to get worse. Our best bet to see more meaningful games is to expand the playoffs imo. And it’s still a helluva feat to get into an 8 or 12 team playoff when there are over 100 teams total. Winning a conference title or earning one of a few at large bids is a big deal. To me it just makes the regular season more interesting for a greater number of teams who may have a shot the playoffs. I don’t see it watering down the regular season at all.
So is it your contention that Valvano’s run to the title with the Wolfpack ruined college basketball? How about Nova’s upset of Georgetown? Was it detrimental for Butler to make the finals against Duke? Because at 33-5 in the Horizon league, they wouldn’t have sniffed a 16 team playoff.Increasing the c.f. playoff will just ruin the sport..... the fact that more than half the people support that, means that more than half the people are wrong. no one in their right mind wants 3 or 4 loss teams making a claim to the title. the best part of CF, is that EVERY GAME COUNTS, even the non-conf early season games. C.F. has THE BEST regular season of any sport, and to cheapen the regular season, or make those games meaningless, would ruin the very best of sports.
Whelp…I admire your passion my friend but with all due respect.the fact that more than half the people support that, means that more than half the people are wrong.