Frost's players have transferred out of FAU, Louisville, and Oregon State this year alone. He's on the hot seat in at least 4 different schools!Frost owes Satterfield an apology for instilling this bad culture in McCaffrey, thus causing him to transfer again.
OK, if the only thing we are talking about in this thread is whether Scott Frost is somehow redeemed by Luke McCaffrey's actions, I guess you might be right?
You forgot Patrick O'Brien who transferred from Nebraska after talking to Frost, then started at CSU and transferred from there to Washington.Frost's players have transferred out of FAU, Louisville, and Oregon State this year alone. He's on the hot seat in at least 4 different schools!
I never saw the skill set or real sign of grasping the offense from LM. I was shocked when SF came out with this and just as shocked when he pulled Martinez and started Luke against Penn State and Illinois. There was a few of us that could see even after the Penn State win that this kid was a good runner but wasn't going to ever be a Power 5 quarterback. That was a lonely island at the time that suddenly after his departure became alot more popular.Here's the first article that popped up on the issue:
Adrian Martinez has been playing with chip on shoulder, Scott Frost says, and could reclaim the starting QB role.journalstar.com
I suppose the quote could be parsed and re-parsed, but the implication on it's surface is both that LM was the future at quarterback (no mention of competition or position change) and Frost publicly intimated that he saw similarities between his circumstances and LM's.
Not seeing a lot of vindication myself here. Seeing mistakes, several actually. Roster management, messaging, declarations, etc. have IMO been the biggest mistakes/missteps/miscalculations that Frost has made since his arrival.
Two or three players made some very questionable comments in pressers. Stuff concerning Adrian and Luke and how they played. Not the kind of thing that a player should ever say in public. It gave me a picture of some dissension in the locker room. Call it culture, maybe? Seemed like no coincidence when Luke and these other players all hit the portal. I can't help believing the culture is better now.Wow. Maybe there was more to the story when he was here. Probably best we parted ways when we did.
Spot on.I don't blame him for 'all' of the turn over. He, IMO, certainly blundered and made several missteps tho...specifically related to the roster. Really hard to justify the statements he made about what he inherited, and then turn around and have to rely on what he inherited, without significant progress in those he recruited. Sorta hard to 'get behind' a coach's philosophy/culture when he says you ain't good enough...
How did the offense look under Martinez his freshman year?20/20 hindsight is a real thing.
It's also easier to find fault in coaches than be a coach.
Seems like LM's departure worked out for Nebraska after all.
I think declaring that LM couldn't play QB based on a few games as a Freshman is a pretty high standard. Not many freshman QB's could have made this offense productive over the last few years. Frankly, i'm not sure Tom Brady could have done it.
Brings back memories of Eric Crouch and his flirtations with the NFL. Two very similar guys that had delusions about their ability to play the position. Funny thing is I think LM could have done very similar things that Crouch and Even Frost did during their career but it was a different offense and the other two had a substantially better supporting cast.Luke just thinks more highly of himself that others do, and that's okay. He may never be a QB but if his ego doesn't get in the way, he could be a good player at some other position.
Frost was a bit bigger and not quite as quick and shifty. Crouch is a really good comparison as both are really fast. He would have done very well in that offense.Brings back memories of Eric Crouch and his flirtations with the NFL. Two very similar guys that had delusions about their ability to play the position. Funny thing is I think LM could have done very similar things that Crouch and Even Frost did during their career but it was a different offense and the other two had a substantially better supporting cast.