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FSU Lawsuit Will Likely End the ACC

Advertisers negotiate their campaigns 6 months to 1 year in advance. There are no surprises.

Media agrees to these payouts based on actuarial analysis of future viewership and projected advertising sales. It’s a really high stakes game. I spent 23 years in healthcare marketing.
Yes, and it belongs on the top when you pay on the top. The media can't agree to something they can't deliver.
 

Yes, and it belongs on the top when you pay on the top. The media can't agree to something they can't deliver.

no argument from me. Not a whole lot has really changed. There are only going to be 8-10 programs on prime time national from now on. Just the way it is. That's actually no problem for me - I can watch Nebraska and OSU on other channels, no big deal. Unlike the 60s and 70s, at least we have options on other channels. The national programs will be tOSU, Michigan, occasionally Penn State, Texas, A&M, Notre Dame, possibly Bama and Georgia, though I don't think they are going to have the coin to compete against those others in terms of team talent in the new world order. Hard to imagine that, but those are not particularly rich schools or states.

When I was growing up in Texas, we had three channels. You could watch Texas play someone, and a Big 8 team play someone - usually either OU or Nebraska. That's actually why I am a Nebraska fan. Everyone else around here was OU or Texas, and I wanted to be different. But that was your college football for the weekend. As a result, those schools held tremendous leverage - a multiple - over other programs not on TV. Tech was NEVER on TV. A far bigger disparity than the disparity between say the current Big 12 and the Big 10. While the Big 12 is half of the Big 10 in payouts, it's still an incredible amount of cash. Plenty enough to continue as they were. Which means competitive, but certainly not national championship competitive.

This is coming down to about 8 programs. A lot like MLB.
 
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no argument from me. Not a whole lot has really changed. There are only going to be 8-10 programs on prime time national from now on. Just the way it is. That's actually no problem for me - I can watch Nebraska and OSU on other channels, no big deal. Unlike the 60s and 70s, at least we have options on other channels. The national programs will be tOSU, Michigan, occasionally Penn State, Texas, A&M, Notre Dame, possibly Bama and Georgia, though I don't think they are going to have the coin to compete against those others in terms of team talent in the new world order. Hard to imagine that, but those are not particularly rich schools or states.

When I was growing up in Texas, we had three channels. You could watch Texas play someone, and a Big 8 team play someone - usually either OU or Nebraska. That's actually why I am a Nebraska fan. Everyone else around here was OU or Texas, and I wanted to be different. But that was your college football for the weekend. As a result, those schools held tremendous leverage - a multiple - over other programs not on TV. Tech was NEVER on TV. A far bigger disparity than the disparity between say the current Big 12 and the Big 10. While the Big 12 is half of the Big 10 in payouts, it's still an incredible amount of cash. Plenty enough to continue as they were. Which means competitive, but certainly not national championship competitive.

This is coming down to about 8 programs. A lot like MLB.
Raiders, Vikings, Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburg, Philly, KC, St Louis. Almost every team in the NFL has had it going.
MLB, about as many.
Thing is, there's so many really good coaches, you eliminate 25 spots for them to go, the remaining 40 get them. Its not all about money only.
If you find yourself in a spot where you can't have a top staff then yes, you're likely to be second tier. Osu is trying to buy their way to the top this year, call it an advanced bluff team with deep pockets, way ahead of we comin, more like we almost there.
Lets see how it goes. Not sure about the coaching at A&M but their attempts looked like garbage.
I would add one outlier, having great admin that are in touch, something you may not be able to just buy.
 
The NFL has parity because of a salary cap. So competitiveness is built in.

Not so for MLB. Realistically, only the big market teams have any chance. In college, Texas doesn’t even have to win to be on prime time. Neither does Notre Dame or USC.
 



The NFL has parity because of a salary cap. So competitiveness is built in.

Not so for MLB. Realistically, only the big market teams have any chance. In college, Texas doesn’t even have to win to be on prime time. Neither does Notre Dame or USC.
Twins, KC, St Louis, Detroit, to name a few.
You still have to assemble a team that does what works.
 
Twins, KC, St Louis, Detroit, to name a few.
You still have to assemble a team that does what works.

Bottom line is, there will only be 8-10 traditional blue bloods on national prime time going forward. Maybe once a year it is your and my favorite team. Nothing's really changed on that, other than Nebraska is sadly not among that group anymore. Hope springs eternal, but I don't see us getting back there. I do think Rhule will have us in the top 25 though.
 
Those are outliers. They do happen occasionally. Small market teams benefit some from the "luxury tax" paid by the Yankees, etc.
The twins built their teams through AAA, AA. Not sure of the others.
Same for college football.
You are only counting one market here, the teams. The players have their own market too. And they want to play.
 




Advertisers negotiate their campaigns 6 months to 1 year in advance. There are no surprises.

Media agrees to these payouts based on actuarial analysis of future viewership and projected advertising sales. It’s a really high stakes game. I spent 23 years in healthcare marketing.


Look at after Clemson, too little of a market for those teams going forward.
 
no argument from me. Not a whole lot has really changed. There are only going to be 8-10 programs on prime time national from now on. Just the way it is. That's actually no problem for me - I can watch Nebraska and OSU on other channels, no big deal. Unlike the 60s and 70s, at least we have options on other channels. The national programs will be tOSU, Michigan, occasionally Penn State, Texas, A&M, Notre Dame, possibly Bama and Georgia, though I don't think they are going to have the coin to compete against those others in terms of team talent in the new world order. Hard to imagine that, but those are not particularly rich schools or states.

When I was growing up in Texas, we had three channels. You could watch Texas play someone, and a Big 8 team play someone - usually either OU or Nebraska. That's actually why I am a Nebraska fan. Everyone else around here was OU or Texas, and I wanted to be different. But that was your college football for the weekend. As a result, those schools held tremendous leverage - a multiple - over other programs not on TV. Tech was NEVER on TV. A far bigger disparity than the disparity between say the current Big 12 and the Big 10. While the Big 12 is half of the Big 10 in payouts, it's still an incredible amount of cash. Plenty enough to continue as they were. Which means competitive, but certainly not national championship competitive.

This is coming down to about 8 programs. A lot like MLB.
Not even close. You'll have 8 teams alone that play at noon. Fox, ESPN, ABC, fs1/peacock. Another 8 at 3. Another 8 at 7. Another 2/4 Friday night. That's close to 30 easy. Move a few to Thursday and everyone in the P2 is on.
 





Look at after Clemson, too little of a market for those teams going forward.


Yeah that's some solid data right there. Vanderbilt has more media value than all of the Big 12 and ACC teams except for Clemson. Real quick now: Who's the coach of Vanderbilt, and what city is it in? :Salute:

Dude you've got to do better than posting Altimore. He's the same guy that said the new Pac deal would be a walk-in layup better than the Big 12's, and no Pac team was EVER going to leave.

I fully get your B1G/SEC exalted ruler schtick, but Altimore wouldn't be one of my expert witnesses. :Rolf:
 
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Yeah that's some solid data right there. Vanderbilt has more media value than all of the Big 12 and ACC teams except for Clemson. Real quick now: Who's the coach of Vanderbilt, and what city is it in? :Salute:

Dude you've got to do better than posting Altimore. He's the same guy that said the new Pac deal would be a walk-in layup better than the Big 12's, and no Pac team was EVER going to leave.

I fully get your B1G/SEC exalted ruler schtick, but Altimore wouldn't be one of my expert witnesses. :Rolf:
Hate on the facts all you want. Ok st is going to be left out soon enough. Sorry, just a fact.
 

Hate on the facts all you want. Ok st is going to be left out soon enough. Sorry, just a fact.

Goodness, you've gotten a lot more bold in recent days. :Rolf:

Careful though, you always want to leave the audience wanting a little more.

EDIT: Keep posting Altimore, too. He's always spot on.
 
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