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Huskerfan69 said:
With out a doubt Michigan is. They started that whole thing by trying to plant their flag on another teams field. To me anyway that is way more aggressive, especially after just winning. That said, I don’t excuse what NU did, just because I think Michigan was worse.
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Az State must have watched the Michigan Ohio State game. After they beat Az one of their players tried to plant their flag in the middle of the field and it started the same thing, though it didn't look as bad.
 

Uncle Buck said:
Yeah, Ron Brown led post game prayers. I have no idea where the pregame midfield prayer originated. Is it the entire team? Probably not. Why midfield? And why is midfield suddenly sacred home field territory? Seems like a lot of outrage and counter outrage being generated. I'm just so g d tired of the drama from my favorite team that struggles to play competitive football.

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I do recall one pregame prayer led by Ron Brown during the Pedo State fiasco
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I believe I read the 94 team did that. Not sure if that's what started it, or if we've done it since then. Perhaps it's the Ron Brown affect, we've done it when he's been with the team.
 
My parents taught me to always show respect to the owners’ wishes when I was visiting someone else’s house. So…

Please just simply respect the HOME team’s request. If they don’t want visitors praying (or whatever) on their midfield logo, RESPECT THAT as if it were your home field and you were making the same or similar request.

It shouldn’t be turned into a viral, social media “thing”.

And there certainly should never be any retaliation (e.g. showing disrespect by not shaking hands at the coin toss), if that indeed was what this coin toss-thing was all about.

Bottom line is there really is no justification for lack of sportsmanship and/or not showing respect.

We don’t have control of the action of others, but we have complete control on how we choose to react.
 
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I believe you show the other team respect, especially in their house. You don't have to like them, but you are representing more than just yourself so you should be a good representative of the team, university, and state. Then, once kickoff starts you should do everything you can to physically dominate the other team and break their will. Knock them down, offer them a hand back up, then knock them down again. Talk is cheap, non football related shenanigans around a football game are cheap. You want to show up your rival? Destroy them at their house.

I'm also not outraged by refusing to shake hands. We just look like a bunch of schmucks by doing it then choking away a game we dominated.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
I believe you show the other team respect, especially in their house. You don't have to like them, but you are representing more than just yourself so you should be a good representative of the team, university, and state. Then, once kickoff starts you should do everything you can to physically dominate the other team and break their will. Knock them down, offer them a hand back up, then knock them down again. Talk is cheap, non football related shenanigans around a football game are cheap. You want to show up your rival? Destroy them at their house.

I'm also not outraged by refusing to shake hands. We just look like a bunch of schmucks by doing it then choking away a game we dominated.
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Yup, talk with your play. If your play wasn’t good enough stand by the side of the road and cheer as the winners go by or something
 




Uncle Buck said:
I've noticed at home games, after the team comes out of the tunnel, the players that pray, head to the endzone, restricting the entrance space for the opposing team. This whole pregame prayer at the midfield seems antagonistic. As a Husker fan that is a fan of praying, I'm not a fan of this type of apparent bush league crap.
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I understand Rhule's midfield prayer takes place during pre game warm ups 2 hours before the game, soon after the team first arrives at the stadium. That's why the players are in street clothes. There are no or few fans.

Meeting at midfield for a prayer, especially as Rhule earlier explained when this first came up to pray for a good game and no one to get hurt, has both practical and theological/symbolic purpose. If you tell player to meet at midfield there's only one place that describes. And meeting at the geometric focus of a building emphasize the centrality and unity of God in monotheistic traditions. That's why round or square footprints are common in world religions, for example Greek Orthodoxy. Western Christianity evolved into a rectangle intersected by a transept to reflect a cross instead, but that just shows that symbolism is important in religion, even if there are multiple influences.

I understand Rhule is not the only coach to have a practice like this. In any case I believe we can take him at his word: the purpose is prayer. People who think it is intentionally disrespecting the opponent are, in my opinion, simply ignorant.

Which brings us to Shedeur Sanders. As far as we know he was the first to object to the practice, claiming it is disrespect, which I think aptly reflects his rather charming worldview.

So now Iowa's athletic department management, who surely instructs their police in these matters, apparently picks up on this and has police surround the logo. It's amazing to me any police anywhere would think it's appropriate for them to get involved in these kind of shenanigans. But here we are. Iowa certainly didn't show any class in the logo part of this sad day if crap.

Still, what's done is done. Shedeur and Iowa have succeeded in politicizing something that was actually reverential and humble. It is for Rhule to decide if continuing the practice won't sully the religious nature of it if he maintains it unchanged going forward.

Perhaps he could ask schools in advance if it is ok or if they would prefer they do it somewhere else, so as not to confuse anyone about it's honest intent.
 
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huskernut said:
I understand Rhule's midfield prayer takes place during pre game warm ups 2 hours before the game, soon after the team first arrives at the stadium. That's why the players are in street clothes. There are no or few fans.

Meeting at midfield for a prayer, especially as Rhule earlier explained when this first came up to pray for a good game and no one to get hurt, has both practical and theological/symbolic purpose. If you tell player to meet at midfield there's only one place that describes. And meeting at the geometric focus of a building emphasize the centrality and unity of God in monotheistic traditions. That's why round or square footprints are common in world religions, for example Greek Orthodoxy. Western Christianity evolved into a rectangle intersected by a transept to reflect a cross instead, but that just shows that symbolism is important in religion, even if there are multiple influences.

I understand Rhule is not the only coach to have a practice like this. In any case I believe we can take him at his word: the purpose is prayer. People who think it is intentionally disrespecting the opponent are, in my opinion, simply ignorant.
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Bump for @Speedlimit
 
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huskernut said:
I understand Rhule's midfield prayer takes place during pre game warm ups 2 hours before the game, soon after the team first arrives at the stadium. That's why the players are in street clothes. There are no or few fans.

Meeting at midfield for a prayer, especially as Rhule earlier explained when this first came up to pray for a good game and no one to get hurt, has both practical and theological/symbolic purpose. If you tell player to meet at midfield there's only one place that describes. And meeting at the geometric focus of a building emphasize the centrality and unity of God in monotheistic traditions. That's why round or square footprints are common in world religions, for example Greek Orthodoxy. Western Christianity evolved into a rectangle intersected by a transept to reflect a cross instead, but that just shows that symbolism is important in religion, even if there are multiple influences.

I understand Rhule is not the only coach to have a practice like this. In any case I believe we can take him at his word: the purpose is prayer. People who think it is intentionally disrespecting the opponent are, in my opinion, simply ignorant.

Which brings us to Shedeur Sanders. As far as we know he was the first to object to the practice, claiming it is disrespect, which I think aptly reflects his rather charming worldview.
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I agree as the Argument about meeting at mid field / logo is about disrespecting the LOGO not the prayer itself it's a territorial thing like Texas A&M with the whole the field is sacred. It's a Gang like mentality of this is our turf respect it or Die
 
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