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Chuck Neinas, great read, Nebraska and Missouri made mistake

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Cornjob

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Don’t be a homer. Frost had minimal HC experience. Venables has worked for Snyder, Stoops, and Swinney, and been successful everywhere he’s been. The comparison is very real imo. Disagree on Texas. They will struggle their asses off. OU doesn’t seem to be struggling in recruiting. You might wanna rethink that.

No, I’m saying that no one in Oklahoma will use Frost as a measuring stick for Venables. It’s a useless comparison because it means nothing. They expect to be competitive for the SEC. Those are the coaches he’ll be compared to. There is no reason to go out of your way to bring Frost’s tenure into this discussion about Oklahoma. Pretty much every other thread on here has that conversation. Too many folks here perseverating on the same point that it fogs up attempts at any other conversation.

I don’t want to get into a big discussion about recruiting, but OU is NOT getting the caliber of players that Dabo regularly attracts. I also think the Sooners have offered some guys that made me raise my eyebrows. But that stuff is so objective and so dependent on player development that I’ll concede I could be wrong about any of those individual offers. Time will tell. Heck, with the transfer portal who knows what the roster actually looks like in a couple years.
 

Bigger Ed

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Also, I believe that Oklahoma game was 35-0 in the first qtr. I was there. It was 14-0 in the first 2 minutes of that game. Played them even after that dreadful start. First play of the game was a swing pass pick 6. The 2008 team got better and better as that year progressed.
None of that diminishes the embarassment of those losses.
 

Sofa King

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I'M SO SICK of this alternate/revisionist history BS.
Do you people have any idea of how much cash NU receives annually due to its association with the Big Ten?
It's not just football TV money for the athletic department. That's only a fraction.
Check out this link: https://btaa.org
Once there, see if you can surmise how much research CASH NU gets annually.
At the time NU joined the B1G, the existing members were splitting over $7BILLION annually.
DWARFS the TV deal.
Over the next few decades, the entire University of Nebraska system will prosper.
UN-L will become the difficult-to get-into hub...sort of like UMich.
And like Michigan has all of the compass directional schools, Omaha/UNK/Peru/Wayne will grow in enrollment.
Yes, the decision in 2010 impacted men's sports dramatically but that's a relatively short term issue.
THE MAIN DRIVER is long term academics and B1G research money.
It was that way in 2010 and it remains that way in 2022.
 
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TFrazier

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I'M SO SICK of this alternate/revisionist history BS.
Do you people have any idea of how much cash NU receives annually due to its association with the Big Ten?
It's not just football TV money for the athletic department. That's only a fraction.
Check out this link: https://btaa.org
Once there, see if you can surmise how much research CASH NU gets annually.
At the time NU joined the B1G, the existing members were splitting over $7BILLION annually.
DWARFS the TV deal.
Over the next few decades, the entire University of Nebraska system will prosper.
UN-L will become the difficult-to get-into hub...sort of like UMich.
And like Michigan has all of the compass directional schools, UNK/Peru/Wayne will grow in enrollment.
Yes, the decision in 2010 impacted men's sports dramatically but that's a relatively short term issue.
THE MAIN DRIVER is long term academics and B1G research money.
It was that way in 2010 and it remains that way in 2022.

Spot on post!!

The move to the Big 10 was so much more than athletics. Nebraska ultimately is an academic institution first and the move to the Big 10 was huge.

Some of the athletic teams need to figure it out because absolutely nothing is changing in terms of conference affiliation.
 
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Bigger Ed

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I'M SO SICK of this alternate/revisionist history BS.
Do you people have any idea of how much cash NU receives annually due to its association with the Big Ten?
It's not just football TV money for the athletic department. That's only a fraction.
Check out this link: https://btaa.org
Once there, see if you can surmise how much research CASH NU gets annually.
At the time NU joined the B1G, the existing members were splitting over $7BILLION annually.
DWARFS the TV deal.
Over the next few decades, the entire University of Nebraska system will prosper.
UN-L will become the difficult-to get-into hub...sort of like UMich.
And like Michigan has all of the compass directional schools, Omaha/UNK/Peru/Wayne will grow in enrollment.
Yes, the decision in 2010 impacted men's sports dramatically but that's a relatively short term issue.
THE MAIN DRIVER is long term academics and B1G research money.
It was that way in 2010 and it remains that way in 2022.
I did not realize the amount of research money. I'm happy to be in the B1G but no way we're in that conference if we weren't a has-been, I mean blue blood, football program.
 

BleedinHuskerRed

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Missouri was also sucking up to the B1G at the same time. Mizzou fans were mad we got in first. The Big XII was crumbling. TX was exerting its influence in the conference at the same time backstabbing its members by courting the PAC 10 and taking OU with it.

IIRC, Mizzou basically had their invite in the bag, but they started blabbing about it before it was a done deal, and the B1G dropped them like a hot potato and started talking to DONU instead.

It’s pretty well documented that Nebraska’s decision to switch conferences was predicated on other Big 12 universities looking first, not the other way around.
 
Not questioning the leadership. I was front and center of it in the beginning. Bad decisions were made. No question. Frost and Hoiberg weren’t some of them. They were unanimous hires that have both sucked. Most everyone liked Moos until the last 8-9 months of his tenure. The OU fiasco did him in, and of course, not being there much. Just today, I heard John Hoover, of Sooners SI, in Omaha covering OU in the WS, say, he’s talked to some local folks, and that Frost doesn’t even want to be here anymore, nor, is his head in it, so that could be another issue moving forward. What I’m saying is, Nebraska is not really a fit, athletically, in the BIG, and most nationally say the same thing. Has nothing to do with losing. That was going to happen in the Big 12, had the same decisions been made.
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Interesting that Mr. Hoover is making the exact same argument you foisted on us back in October 31st? Paraphrasing? Confirmation bias? Just making things up? Got a link?

Further, why should Frost answer this guy's interview request? He isn't answering anyone else's right now either. Maybe, just maybe he knows what the rest of do. What possible good could come out of Frost doing interviews? Right now, whether you think he should be the current HC or not, words mean little. Put it on the field.
 

Husker In Oklahoma

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Interesting that Mr. Hoover is making the exact same argument you foisted on us back in October 31st? Paraphrasing? Confirmation bias? Just making things up? Got a link?

Further, why should Frost answer this guy's interview request? He isn't answering anyone else's right now either. Maybe, just maybe he knows what the rest of do. What possible good could come out of Frost doing interviews? Right now, whether you think he should be the current HC or not, words mean little. Put it on the field.
Did he look engaged to you genius? Hell no he didn’t. His body language was crap.
I don’t know John Hoover. Only listen to him some and have read articles written by him. That’s what he said on Tuesday on the radio. @johnehoover on Twitter. Reach out to him and ask him.

Last year, it sure looked like Frost was checked out. Maybe he has a fresh vibe this year? We’ll know soon enough.
 
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goodnterribles

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Did he look engaged to you genius? Hell no he didn’t. His body language was crap.
I don’t know John Hoover. Only listen to him some and have read articles written by him. That’s what he said on Tuesday on the radio. @johnehoover on Twitter. Reach out to him and ask him.

Last year, it sure looked like Frost was checked out. Maybe he has a fresh vibe this year? We’ll know soon enough.

Are we talking body language during games, or just in press conferences? Also, gray sweatshirts, yea or nay?
 
Did he look engaged to you genius? Hell no he didn’t. His body language was crap.
I don’t know John Hoover. Only listen to him some and have read articles written by him. That’s what he said on Tuesday on the radio. @johnehoover on Twitter. Reach out to him and ask him.

Last year, it sure looked like Frost was checked out. Maybe he has a fresh vibe this year? We’ll know soon enough.
As matter of fact I didn't question his engagement at any point. If you wanted to argue that he looked lost, confused, and/or frustrated I wouldn't disagree but instead you did what you do. Then again, maybe you "front and center" for that too.
 

Husker In Oklahoma

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So in your world what Frost has said during his press conferences, including times where he has stepped in it, has no affect on team chemistry or morale?
Some, just have no clue. Unless one is an idiot, or complete homer, anyone with half of brain could see that Frost was beaten, battered, and bruised last year. He looked done, sounded done on many occasions. This is the same coach who said, there are no answers. They can sugar coat that **** all they want. It’s what they do. Maybe he’s got new energy this year, we’ll see soon enough.
 
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