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Big 10 Refs

fjbfour said:
I'm kind of joking, but I'm kind of not.... now that we have no cap on assistants and analysts and such, I kind of feel like we could benefit from having a person whose only job is to monitor the game from the booth, and tell Rhule when to challenge a call or that a timeout should be called to eliminate any excuse from the B1G that the replay center didn't have time to notice an incorrect call and fix it.

Some of these reviewable bad calls and no-calls and now bad spots have literally cost us games. The financial impact of being 7-1 right now instead of 5-3 would pay for that position. Some of these could and should have been overturned.

Like, it sounds like an absurd over the top idea, but..... is it, really?

I'm sure there's a handful of people right here on this board who could competently do this job, and would take their pay in the form of booth access and unlimited Runzas and Valentinos.
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MLB teams employee people to watch a play and let the manager know to challenge a call. I don't see any reason why CFB teams can't do the same.
 

Bean said:
www.si.com

Buckeyes Barely Beat Huskers as Blackshirts Battle Back and Baffle the Bettors

On another beautiful fall afternoon in the Horseshoe the #4 ranked Ohio State Buckeyes came from behind in the fourth quarter to edge the Nebraska Cornhuskers 2
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"Amazingly, the Ohio State offense was not called for a single penalty. Please allow a brief rant on the officiating. How hard is it to spot the ball? Emmett Johnson had a first down by nearly two yards at the end of the first half and the ball was marked a yard short costing the Huskers at least 18 seconds off the clock. Then in the third quarter after Hartzog’s pick, on third and goal Jaylen Lloyd got inside the 1-yard line and the ball was marked back at the two. The play sent in was based on the ball at the one and Dante Dowdell came up less than a yard short on fourth down. The offensive interference calls were almost criminal and Buckeye coach Ryan Day slams his headset to the ground and touches an official and gets a sideline warning. Someone far more objective than me might assume that the Big Ten was trying to ensure that the Buckeyes make the playoffs and their officials ruled accordingly. But it’s not a one-game thing. The refs are bad every week."
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It wasn't just "spotted back at the two".

The ball was parked on the one. The play call was made. The personnel grouping was adjusted accordingly. The players were literally in the huddle. Then the official came up from the end zone, inexplicably moved the ball from the one to the two, and the players broke from the huddle ready to move the ball one yard, and if they noticed the change, it was too late at that point to do anything except call a TO.

As much as i gripe about Satt, the egregious officiating interference is a not insignificant contributor to our bottom line offensive results.
 


the apparent holding on the interception at the end of the game
puts icing on the cake





If anyone has a video of the ball moved back from the one to the two
would appreciate if you posted it
Thanks you in advance
 



I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, there are hundreds of millions of dollars a year, we can find a few million to hire full time refs. Until we go fulltime, this will continue to happen. These guys do this a weeks a year. We're following a 1940's model for refs when nothing else stays the same from year to year. Just insane.
 
fjbfour said:
It wasn't just "spotted back at the two".

The ball was parked on the one. The play call was made. The personnel grouping was adjusted accordingly. The players were literally in the huddle. Then the official came up from the end zone, inexplicably moved the ball from the one to the two, and the players broke from the huddle ready to move the ball one yard, and if they noticed the change, it was too late at that point to do anything except call a TO.

As much as i gripe about Satt, the egregious officiating interference is a not insignificant contributor to our bottom line offensive results.
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I have to walk this part back. Was in a discussion with someone here who implied video of this existed, but turns out this is not the case.

It's still absolutely true that the ball was placed near the 2 instead of inside the 1 where it should have been, but I have to retract the claim that an official moved it during the huddle. Not saying it didn't happen, but I have no proof.
 


NU_Alum said:
I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, there are hundreds of millions of dollars a year, we can find a few million to hire full time refs. Until we go fulltime, this will continue to happen. These guys do this a weeks a year. We're following a 1940's model for refs when nothing else stays the same from year to year. Just insane.
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Agree that will help.

What makes it even better is weekly grading and corrections in season. If they’re full time employees they need to be held accountable like full time employees in other lines of work.

What it won’t fix is the baked in bias and preferentially treatment teams like Ohio State, Michigan, etc. get. Short of crap canning the lot of them (which I am in favor of) I don’t know how you fix that.
 

CrabHusker said:
Agree that will help.

What makes it even better is weekly grading and corrections in season. If they’re full time employees they need to be held accountable like full time employees in other lines of work.

What it won’t fix is the baked in bias and preferentially treatment teams like Ohio State, Michigan, etc. get. Short of crap canning the lot of them (which I am in favor of) I don’t know how you fix that.
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I think if you go fulltime and pay well enough, you'll attract an entire new group of refs. Yes, bias exists, but if you grade them out each week, you'll be able to eliminate most of that. I've been a certified ref before, usually most guys are fairly locked into the ongoing play instead of the which team is it mentality.

Paying guys $2k/game means we get half"donkey" refs and not a good supply of replacements. If you paid $100k starting, you could attract tons of football people (high school coaches would jump at this IMO).
 
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