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College Football Playoffs to stay at four teams

Discussion in 'Football' started by BigRedMax, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. hskrdavey

    hskrdavey Red Shirt 10 Year Member

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    Scrap the entire Playoffs. Go back to old (but enhanced) bowl season with the top 6-8 bowls around New years time. Put together the best match-ups. Let em play. After the bowl season pick the top 2 teams based on all the typical stuff people want to rate them on, Strength of schedule, Conf champions, how they finished the season, how played in the bowl games (keeping them relevant) etc....
    Give them a bye week so folks can set up travel etc.. One final game to choose the true National Champion in Mid Jan. Have the game on a Saturday night so the entire country and economy can benefit. (Bars, Vendors, My SLEEP!)
     
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  2. David3464

    David3464 Red Shirt 2 Year Member

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    The PAC is probably at it's worst right now. The ACC right now is pretty down too, except for one team that is #1. But time changes things pretty quickly. Clemson was just a decent top 20 team about 10 years ago. USC, Stanford, Washington, Oregon have all been considered to be pretty good teams in the last 10-20 years, so I don't discount them getting more competitive. I think the more teams in a playoff raises all P5 Conferences too, as it makes it more likely that HS players see opportunities of playing in the CFP more available, no matter which conference they play in. With the plethora of Southern universities being popular among HS athletes though, it certainly makes it more likely that the Midwest, NE, and NW universities of the country will be less likely to get into a CFP of only 4 teams.
     
  3. Hville

    Hville Scout Team 2 Year Member

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    I really have no problem with going to 8. I would probably vote for that plan over the 4 team plan as long as it doesn't include automatic qualifiers for halve the conferences and not the other half.
     
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  4. Hville

    Hville Scout Team 2 Year Member

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    I think there will be drama when one of conference champs that gets in automatically has 3 losses or more and wasn't recognized as being a top 10 team. Especially by a top 8 team that maybe had 1 or two losses and didn't get in. This year it would have been number 10 Washington in place of number 8 UCF.
     
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  5. Middle-aged_Ball_Coach

    Middle-aged_Ball_Coach Recruit

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    1. Expand to 8 teams.
    2. Give an automatic bid to the winner of any conference with 18 or more FBS teams.
    3. Every conference member is required to play at least 8 conference games.
    4. Every FBS team is required to play 11 regular season games with an optional conference game to be decided by each conference, and nobody plays FCS teams anymore.
    5. Let conferences decide how to choose their champion, and that also means allowing every conference team to play a 12th game on CCG weekend, which should be Thanksgiving week.
    If you haven't figured out where this is headed and why, there are presently 129 FBS teams, so there could only be 7 conferences with 18 or more teams. Why 18 teams? Because each conference can have 2 divisions with 9 teams each, and each side would play everyone. Getting rid of the FCS games forces the SEC and the ACC to at least play FBS teams. Conferences can have a full schedule of games on championship weekend, so everyone plays 12 games, whether in the CCG or not, which removes that as an advantage/disadvantage. Also, Notre Dame will have to put on its big boy pants and either join a conference or hope to win the beauty contest. Although there would officially be 8 teams in the playoff, the CCG would serve as a play-in game, so there would really be 14 teams with a shot at making the playoff on CCG weekend, plus whoever is the wildcard. We don't need to force any conferences to add teams or dissolve or whatever because the incentives will already be there to create some super-conferences and ditch the fluff. If the Group-of-5 can mix and match and merge, God bless 'em! Make a couple super-conferences, and if you don't get an invite, you should maybe consider FCS. Within two years the B1G, SEC, and ACC would be at 18 teams, and the PAC would be scrambling to do the same. The Big 12 would be kaput. The AAC, MAC, and Conference-USA would race to 18, and everybody else would fall by the wayside. Within a few years there would be 6 automatic invites to the 6 champs, and 2 wildcards, then 7 automatics and a wildcard. The rest of the teams would either have to figure out how to make some sort of scrambled up super-conference of 18 teams by bringing up more FCS teams to FBS, but they'd be just as likely to drop down to FCS. Having Notre Dame NOT win the beauty contest would be a feature, not a bug.

    Everybody gets the first weekend in December off to "study for finals." Academics are important, you know. The second weekend in December would be the first round of the playoffs. The top seeds could host, or we could use 4 traditional bowl games. Either one works. The two winners play on New Year's Day, and the other teams can still play some bowl games, if they want, whenever. Same as now, the championship would be the Monday that's at least 7 days later.

    The key to the possibility of all of this is happening would be completely cutting out the NCAA, allowing the SEC, B1G, and ACC to bully some other conferences around, and empowering the ADs after that as much as possible. Let every FBS AD have a vote on who fills out the field of 8. If every AD gets a vote, Notre Dame's AD is no longer our special snowflake with his own seat at the big boys' table with the conference presidents.

    The polls and the playoff committee can go play with themselves. The conferences and bowls would still be intact, and the money would flow. The real sources of power--money from TV contracts, and the P-5 conferences--would still hold power, but they could do it in a way that benefits themselves without at least appearing to be stepping on everybody else. The two big hurdles are the existence of the Big 12 and Notre Dame's pampered status. Throw enough money at Texas and Oklahoma and let them pick where they want to land, and the Big 12 no longer matters. Notre Dame? Let them get their tails whipped in a couple more playoff games that they don't deserve to be in, and the other ADs and the P-5 conferences will quickly tire of it.
     
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  6. husker6

    husker6 Husker Baby 3:16 says GO BIG RED!!! 10 Year Member

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    Dump the playoffs. Bowl chaos was so much better.
     
  7. izzycohen

    izzycohen Geezer Squad 10 Year Member

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    Works for me.
     
  8. Hville

    Hville Scout Team 2 Year Member

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    They will never design conferences around a playoff system. The playoffs are not that important.
     
  9. FeelLikeAStranger

    FeelLikeAStranger Keeping it Brockmire 15 Year Member

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    I think you reversed FCS and FBS.
     
  10. Middle-aged_Ball_Coach

    Middle-aged_Ball_Coach Recruit

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    Yeah, you're right. I'll edit it. Thanks!

    I edited a bunch of other stuff, too, to make it clearer. I shouldn't allow myself to use a keyboard late at night.
     
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