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2019 QB Offer - Max Duggan (4-star from Council Bluffs)

Discussion in 'Recruiting' started by Native, Jun 5, 2017.

  1. N2FL

    N2FL Travel Squad 10 Year Member

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    I don't get the argument of not being able to attract a top QB in this class because they see Nebraska with Gebbia and Martinez. I could see Frost wanting to add a kid (Luke McCaffrey) with a big upside who understands he will need a year or two to develop (and is okay with that) in order to bolster his room a bit and then go after another "Adrian Martinez" sort of kid in 2020. But to say they wouldn't get a kid of that caliber this year is not accurate IMPO. He might choose to go with the "McCaffrey" route because it would not be a risk of losing a kid if he got beat out. Frost likes a large QB room (probably 5 scholarship kids) so he might want to pad the numbers before going after a big fish in 2020.

    For anyone who hadn't seen what Clemson and Washington have done the last couple years at QB:

    Clemson (who already has a four-star QB (Taisun Phommachanh) committed to the 2019 class):

    2016 - Zerrick Cooper (four-star) has since transferred to Jacksonville State
    2017 - Hunter Johnson (five-star) and Chase Brice (four-star)
    2018 - Trevor Lawrence (five-star)

    Washington (who have a commitment from high four-star Dylan Morris for the 2019 class AND had a former five-star QB (Jacob Eason) transfer to them AFTER the 2018 signing day):

    2016 - Daniel Bridge-Gadd (Named Scout Team MVP after redshirting)
    2017 - Jake Haener - Elite 11 member
    2018 - Colson Yankoff and Jacob Sirmon, both four-stars and Elite 11 members
     
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  2. manawahusker

    manawahusker Recruit

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    Max to TCU. Staff stability, his type of offense and a christian education, everything that is important to both him and his family
     
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  3. IMfanFORnu

    IMfanFORnu Red Shirt 5 Year Member

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    um... no..... really almost laughable, using a research ranking, and ignoring reputation. Happens every time, someone posts something remotely threatening to dear ol UNL's academic reputation.

    TCU is not a research university, as is the case with most private religious schools. Its not their focus.

    WSJ rankings

    TCU #179

    UNL #467

    None of this matters, only matters to what this high school student wants in a school.
     
  4. IMfanFORnu

    IMfanFORnu Red Shirt 5 Year Member

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    1) Notre Dame 58 k x 5 years = $ 290,000
    UNL 22k x 5 years = $ 110,00

    $180 k, buys you a bunch of flights on SW


    2) Of course it depends on what one's field of study is, or one's career choice is, but all things being equal:

    A degree from Notre Dame is worth more than a degree from UNL. A Notre Dame degree will offer more opportunities in general than a similar degree from UNL. That's really not debatable.


    This may be the only time, would welcome a Cardinal posting :Catfight:
     
  5. IMfanFORnu

    IMfanFORnu Red Shirt 5 Year Member

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    Yup, good fit, both school and football.
     
  6. IMfanFORnu

    IMfanFORnu Red Shirt 5 Year Member

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    Would that not apply to every single football recruit at any position?
     
  7. David3464

    David3464 Red Shirt 2 Year Member

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    TCU is a good program. Glad he chose it over MN and ND, that’s for sure. TCU should be Okie’s main competition as they play defense better than most B12 schools. They need to improve their offense and play better D against Okie though. As long as Patterson is there, they should be competitive.
     
  8. joncarl

    joncarl Nobody important 10 Year Member

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    Good luck kid, hope all goes well for you. Time to move on from him and concentrate on the ones that want/are coming to the Huskers. I think we will be just fine.

    Side note here, I went to the Husker Smilies section and I can't find the husker flag thingy. Anyone know where it went?
     
  9. Native

    Native ToungeInCheek since 2010 5 Year Member

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    Cost of attendance to ND on Full Scholarship $0.00
    Cost of attendance to Nebraska on Full Scholarship $0.00
    What a place charges for admission doesn't matter in this case is my argument.


    Athletic scholarships will provide a total of $0.00 for flights on SW and that 180K difference you highlighted is paper money that no one gets....?

    Family Travel Expense to Lincoln would be less than South Bend or TCU now that that is the place. (which will require real money being spent)


    2. All I have said is that it matters what degree you get, ND may be more valuable, I haven't argued against that, just that what he wants a degree in may make that a negligible thing. My guess is that if he wants to sell seed corn later in life he might want to go to Nebraska. Turns out TCU offers the program he is most interested in... And my guess is that program is Patterson and what the degree is in and who it is from is secondary to Max.
     
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  10. hskrdavey

    hskrdavey Red Shirt 10 Year Member

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    Of course, but if there's writing on the wall that the odds are not good to do that, you would want to find a school where your odds are higher...so you don't have to transfer later down the road.
     
  11. manawahusker

    manawahusker Recruit

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    TCU is loaded with talent at Qb, including the #2 dual threat quarterback in the 2017 class. I would say his odds of playing immediately or within a year are slimmer at TCU then Nebraska, Iowa, Iowa State or Minnesota
     
  12. Plague of Crickets

    Plague of Crickets Where am I?

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    I'm actually not that sensitive about UNL's academic reputation. I'm just pointing out that rankings for which reputation plays a major role are bogus because they're based on circular reasoning. Harvard is ranked #1 in a given year, so everyone knows that Harvard is #1. The next year when people are polled about the reputations of schools, they rank Harvard #1 because Harvard has the reputation of being #1. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. To really tell you need real research and teaching metrics.

    Also, while TCU isn't an R1, it is an R2, meaning they're trying to play with the big boys on the research front.
     
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  13. Native

    Native ToungeInCheek since 2010 5 Year Member

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    Yep. Also, undergrad degree from a fancy place is nice. But go to Nebraska/lower tier place and use that to get into grad school at a place with a name (very doable). Getting a terminal/advanced degree from the school at the top of your field goes much further than an undergrad degree IMO.
     
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  14. Cyberbach

    Cyberbach Founding Father 15 Year Member

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    :Huskerflag:
     
  15. joncarl

    joncarl Nobody important 10 Year Member

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    :Huskerflag: I know it wasn't there when I was looking for it the first time. Thanks.
     

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