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2018 World Cup

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Red Reign, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. Red Reign

    Red Reign Husker Immortal 10 Year Member

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    Agree on all. This team is going to be a force the next four years and a contender in 2020 even if its a winter Cup as its looking

    Our Southgate is Jason Kries. Its time to bring him and stop hiring big name coaches.
     
  2. HuskerMaestro

    HuskerMaestro I play for Nebraska. 5 Year Member

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    Hearing rumors of Jesse Marsh to Werder Bremen, I think, so probably won’t be him as the next coach. I imagine they’re waiting until after the WC to announce, but they’ve got to have someone in mind already.
     
  3. Cardinal

    Cardinal Blackshirt 10 Year Member

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    Really like your post. But what these past few weeks have shown, if anything, is how far away USA is in reaching the semis in a WC. The world is really full of top notch footballers these days. USA seem to have lost ground to the Russia, Belgium, Sweden, Croatia's, etc. of the world over these past 4-8 years.
     
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  4. Red Reign

    Red Reign Husker Immortal 10 Year Member

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    I agree Gulati and all his mistakes etc put the USA in a deep hole and right now it still seems we are rudderless. We have another (new) head of US Soccer who is not a football guy and was Gulati's deputy. Also almost a year without a head coach and it appears no blue print where we are going. Unacceptable in a place like Englad or Germany as just two examples as it should be here.

    We better get our butts into gear or we headed back to pre-90 US Soccer.

    So yeah I agree we are in a deep hole and need a huge overhaul from top to bottom. Which it appears is not happening

    American fans need to start caring and demanding more from the Federation or it will never get to the level of what we saw today
     
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  5. Red Reign

    Red Reign Husker Immortal 10 Year Member

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    Nine months without a coach and floundering around in nothing more than friendlies is not the way to do it

    We don't need a big name European Coach who frankly in many cases wants nothing more than to pick up a final big pay check.

    Look England finally figured out that was a loser scenario.

    Hire a young up and coming American Coach (ie Kries or Marsh) and build it from the ground up. Oh and put someone in charge of US Soccer who has a clue what they are doing
     
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  6. BleedinHuskerRed

    BleedinHuskerRed Red Shirt 2 Year Member

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    Qualifying for the WC, especially in CONCACAF, should be a baseline expectation for the US. Have we ever made it past the Round of 16?
     
  7. Porkchopexpress

    Porkchopexpress Scout Team 5 Year Member

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    Very exciting match yesterday. Sorry your guys came out on the wrong side @Red Reign but England showed they are back to being one of the dominant forces in world soccer with their run this summer. The 2020 Euros should be extremely competitive and fun to watch.'

    France has a huge advantage over Croatia, having an extra day of rest and the fact Croatia has gone to extra time in each of its three knockout stage matches. Plus, I think France is the better team overall.
     
  8. Porkchopexpress

    Porkchopexpress Scout Team 5 Year Member

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    Good discussion, and I agree with a lot. I thought missing out on the WC would kick some butts into gear with US Soccer, but I haven't really seen anything that would lead me to believe that's happening. Although, I am encouraged by the hiring of Earnie Stewart as GM for the USMNT.

    I know this doesn't sit well with some, but guys in serious consideration for the US Soccer pool need to get over to Europe ASAP. Playing in your prime in MLS is not going to cut it if US Soccer is going to get better going forward. I was very happy with the team selection for the France friendly last month, featuring mostly European based players. That's not to say MLS doesn't serve a purpose, because IMO, it's a great way for 17-20 year olds to learn how to be a professional before taking a step to the bigger stage. After that, playing in MLS should not be the goal.

    I went looking at some of the teams @Cardinal mentioned, to see where their guys were playing at the club level. Sweden and Croatia have almost no one playing in their domestic leagues, and almost all playing in top-level leagues in Europe. Russia is pretty much the only one where its players stay at home for club.
     
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  9. Porkchopexpress

    Porkchopexpress Scout Team 5 Year Member

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    Finished 3rd in 1930 (although it was a much different tournament back then) and made it to the quarterfinals in 2002.
     
  10. Cardinal

    Cardinal Blackshirt 10 Year Member

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    Great points
     
  11. Red Reign

    Red Reign Husker Immortal 10 Year Member

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    If your going to Europe to play in a feeder league or basement dwellers in the EPL or Bundasliga it serves no point. Bottom line is like it or not is the perception of American players in Europe is not high. Which is why few if any end up on a top club. Playing on a bottom dweller fighting relaxation does nothing to enhance a career.

    FWIW I think the stereotypical view of American players is wrong.

    I am still of the mind we need a strong domestic league and will only get that way with our best players staying home

    Other than that we are in agreement 100%
     
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  12. Red Reign

    Red Reign Husker Immortal 10 Year Member

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    Lot of sore points how got screwed by that Scottish ref. In that game. Our best team ever.
     
  13. Red Reign

    Red Reign Husker Immortal 10 Year Member

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    I would have liked to have made the final it goes without saying, but how could you not be proud of this team? Wonderful showing and the future is being bright. The FA finally realized that a ton of changes needed to be made and look how it paid off. It was a floating disaster that was not going to get better unless they changed. US Soccer should take note because we are in a similar place that they were. Problem is we are floundering in the wind and doing nothing to fix the issue.
     
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  14. Porkchopexpress

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    I'm hoping the general perception of US players changes, but that will take many years. While I do agree that playing for 2nd and 3rd division teams isn't the way to go, I don't see any problem with guys playing for bottom dwellers in the EPL, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, La Liga. I say that, because there are still a good number of MLS teams that are terribly run. It's easy to say that US players should stay in MLS, but playing for Chicago, Colorado, NE, NYCFC, DC, Columbus would be a waste of time (not to mention the teams that play home games on turf). I still think MLS can serve a purpose, but for me the purpose is to build up teenagers before they move on and provide National team depth.
     
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    Red Reign Husker Immortal 10 Year Member

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    I can tell you with family in England it has changed but not a lot

    Then again as I told an English friend if Wayne Rooney (in his prime) had to play on a bottom feeder how good would he have been?

    I am not saying some players should not go abroad and give it a whirl but I think in the long run we will be better off with a strong domestic league. Who ever the next coach is needs to understand and how important the league is to US Soccer. Its no coincidence how the national team has grown because of MLS
     

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