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July Recruiting And Where We Are At: REDUX

Red Reign

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Alright lets try this again. :)

ShortSideOption said:
Currently sitting at 11 commits, I took the rest of the day off because apparently everyone else in my company did as well. I'll take a look at where we stand recruiting and let you know who we are still in on and who I think we have a decent shot at. Some other knowledgeable posters can tell me where i'm off and we have been eliminated from, or who I forgot.

This list is based on us taking roughly 14 more guys, and obviously the numbers are fluid as a guy like Robinson I have listed at RB, but if he wants to commit and no one jumps ship, we are still taking him. I also don't for sure know where we are projecting some recruits like Pieper, Snodgrass, and Nelson before we talk about guys like Hickman that may play defense.

The grades are based on where we are right now. An A+ for RBs because we are locked and loaded, but a C+ for WRs as we still need to fill a few slots.

Quarterback (1 needed, 1 commit) A-
-Luke McCafferey - Highlands Ranch, CO
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/luke-mccaffrey-30711
SUMMARY:
Doesn't get much better here. We identified our guy and reeled him in. A 3 or 4 star depending on the service you use. A- due to him not being the full-time starter, but I think that will quickly get bumped higher when we see what he can do as the head guy.

Runningback (3 needed, 3 committed) A+
-Ronald Thompkins - Loganville, GA
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/ronald-thompkins-30542
-Rahmir Johnson - Oradell, NJ
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/rahmir-johnson-182111
-Thomas Grayson - Tulsa, OK
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/thomas-grayson-211107
POSSIBLES:
-Wandale Robinson - Frankort, KY
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/wandale-robinson-184702
SUMMARY:
Thompkins with an Alabama offer, Johnson rated a 4 star, and Grayson in the mix, pretty easy to see why this is rated an A+. Crazy to think the 180 the RB room has made in regard to recruiting. That room is going to be stacked and loaded. While I do think we lose Grayson, a guy like 4 star Wandale Robinson as your "Plan B" (we would take him no matter what) is a great way to keep your options open.

WIDE RECEIVER (3 needed, 1 committed) C+
-Jamie Nance - Blanchard, OK
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/jamie-nance-184472
POSSIBLES:
-Mycah Pittman - Calabasas, CA
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/mycah-pittman-182490
-Rahsee Rice - North Richland Hills, TX
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/rashee-rice-189763
-Demariyon Houston - Oklahoma City, OK
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/demariyon-houston-145179
SUMMARY:
C+ here with only one commit that definitely doesn't wow you like a Thompkins or McCafferey commit. However, we are in on some big time fire power with four stars Pittman and Houston seriously considering us, and guys like Rice already have visited. I have a feeling this board will do nothing but get better with the years our WRs will have.

OFFENSIVE LINE (4 needed, 2 committed) C-
-Desmond Bland - Yuma, AZ
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/desmond-bland-183734
-Matthew Anderson - Leesville, LA
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/matthew-anderson-216283
POSSIBLES:
-Danielson Ike - Kansas City, MO
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/danielson-ike-181946
-Enokk Vimahi - Kahuku, HI
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/enokk-vimahi-180736
-Chris Akporoghene - Bradenton, FL
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/chris-akporoghene-181887
-Bryce Benhart - Lakeville, MN
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/bryce-benhart-195686
SUMMARY:
If not for Bland, this would be in the D's. My glass is half full, i'm not worried because of the high caliber guys that have us in their top list that they stated are going to visit. My glass is half empty, if i had to make a prediction right now, we will end up in these recruits top5/8 and not land their commitment. So we will be relegated to lower "diamonds in the rough" and coaching them up, or my better guess is new guys will emerge that I haven't listed. Hoping for the latter. I wouldn't worry here, just need to keep working our board.

TIGHT END/H-BACK (1 needed, 0 committed) N/A
POSSIBLES:
-Chris Hickman - Omaha, NE
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/chris-hickman-
SUMMARY:
I have heard basically nothing about anyone at this position other than Hickman, which worries me as I don't think we are his leader right now, and heck we may even be looking at him at OLB. I really don't have a ton to add here until our numbers shake out a bit with Engelhaupt and Snyder, and Hickman pulls the trigger on where he will commit.

DEFENSIVE LINE (3 or 4 needed, 2 committed) C
-Garrett Nelson - Scottsbluff, NE
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/garrett-nelson-203945
-Ethan Piper - Norfolk, NE
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/ethan-piper-88767
POSSIBLES:
-Ty Robinson - Gilbert, AZ
https://nebraska.rivals.com/offers/football/2019
-Tony Fair - Yuma, AZ (JUCO)
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/tony-fair-226762
-Mosai Newsom - Waverly, IA
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/mosai-newsom-180930
SUMMARY:
So I probably need to explain, as Snodgrass and Nelson allow some flexibility here. I feel really good right now about Newsom and Robinson, and I know Nelson is slated as an OLB, but I see him being like Stille. Where once he gets out of wrestling and can put weight on how he pleases, he will get monstrous. The other question mark is with the addition of the Utah graduate transfer, are we taking another NG? Absolutely if the right one comes along, but do we want it to be a JUCO guy like Tony Fair? We are sitting good there, just not sure how we play it. Will Piper put on the weight to be a NG guy that takes Stoltenbergs place? If so, we may be done at NG. Bottom line is we need Robinson IMO, after that everything is gravy.

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER (3 needed, 1 committed) D
-Garrett Snodgrass - York, NE
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/garrett-snodgrass-182905
POSSIBLES:
-Jermaine Johnson - Independence, KS (JUCO)
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/jermaine-johnson-214368
-Ge'Mond Eaford - Deerfield Beach, FL
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/ge-mon-eaford-10253
SUMMARY:
Quite honestly, this one is a bit perplexing to me. Snodgrass is slated here for me, but provides flexibility to move inside for some depth. However, with how we are looking at ILB not sure we need him to do that (more on that next section). Johnson and Eaford are extreme long shots, and that's all i've heard about for the most part. Our depth at OLB is actually quite good when you look at Dixon, Tannor, Ferguson, Gifford, Miller, and Thomas. That's before you throw guys like Paup in there, so this position isn't as dire. But we just don't have a ton cooking. Unlike OL, it's not as worrisome with who is already in the program and how they did in the 2018 class, but it's a position group to keep an eye on.

INSIDE LINEBACKER (2 needed, 1 committed) A-
-Jackson Hannah - Nashville, TN
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/jackson-hannah-166459
POSSIBLES:
-Nick Henrich - Omaha, NE
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/nick-henrich-185709
SUMMARY:
It starts and stops with closing on Henrich. When we reel him in, this class will be the second best position group for the 2019 class behind RBs. It does not get better than Hannah and Henrich. Those guys are 1A and 1B on our board. Heck of a job by Barrett Ruud. Now the question becomes, if OLB stalls, do we move a guy like Hannah outside, do we have another guy on our ILB board that could play OLB? Will be interesting to watch. But this ILB room gets thin in a hurry. Our top 4 of Young, Barry, Honas, and Weinmaster are going to only have one year left when Hannah and Henrich get here, and Roberts seems to be the only thing that can make a push. I almost think we will take a grad transfer or JUCO here for 2019. But this has gone about as well as it can.

DEFENSIVE BACK (4 needed, 0 committed) N/A
POSSIBLES:
-Tiawan Mullen - Cocunut Creek, FL
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/tiawan-mullen-183355
-Quinton Newsome - Suwanee, GA
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/quinton-newsome-208695
-Javin Wright - Chandler, AZ
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/javin-wright-184229
-Marcus LaFrance - Lauderdale Lakes, FL
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/marcus-lafrance-195770
SUMMARY:
Biggest need in the entire 2019 class is corner. Gotta have at least two and i'm taking 3 if i'm Frost. I'm thinking Mullen is ours (as of right now) and that's a massive get. But after that, I only really see Wright committing to us. I think once the season starts and we can show lack of depth, things will really change. You also have a guy like Mike Hughes at UCF that hopefully our staff can pull in that we don't even know about right now. But the bottom line is Chinander and Fisher have to get to work here. No reason to worry, we just need corners. We will start landing some.
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Red Reign said:
Alright lets try this again. :)
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If not for Bland, this would be in the D's. My glass is half full, i'm not worried because of the high caliber guys that have us in their top list that they stated are going to visit. My glass is half empty, if i had to make a prediction right now, we will end up in these recruits top5/8 and not land their commitment. So we will be relegated to lower "diamonds in the rough" and coaching them up, or my better guess is new guys will emerge that I haven't listed. Hoping for the latter. I wouldn't worry here, just need to keep working our board.

***, looking back 30 or so years the OL has been littered with Nebraskans every year. Do you think Coach Frost is holding out for someone home grown to emerge this year before he goes heavily after out-staters? We've had home grown All-Americans numerous times & we may have some on the team now & in the future, maybe all they need is some decent coaching & better time in the weight room.
 
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@ShortSideOption's OP suggests the recruiting budget will be 25: 'Currently sitting at 11 commits ... This list is based on us taking roughly 14 more guys, ...'

Seems like first time that I've noted a # that high .... makes sense as I would expect more attrition over the next year. Thread regarding 2018 Scholarship #s show only 15 senior schoolies which would make for 7 departures.

With that projected class size, recruiting rankings will take care of itself.

GBR!
 
In the other thread I commented I was a glass half full guy here because of Frosts stated intent to fill the class later in the cycle and use the game day experience to its fullest.

After giving it more thought, a couple of things popped up. Do we need to pick up that pace a bit given the early signing period? He mentioned the need to have to work to keep them on board longer if they commit early, but shouldn’t we be putting that effort in either way?

I’ve also been to games at some of CFBs best venues. I love our game day experience. Places like Iowa, UCLA, and others can’t touch it. But to a kid from Kansas who isn’t a fan, are we really far and away better than the big boys in the BIG or many in the SEC? I don’t believe so. Is it awesome? Yes. As it is at Penn St and others.

Finally, anyone know Frosts policy on taking officials elsewhere after you commit to us? Thanks. I’ll hang up and listen.
 



TnHusker87 said:
@ShortSideOption's OP suggests the recruiting budget will be 25: 'Currently sitting at 11 commits ... This list is based on us taking roughly 14 more guys, ...'

Seems like first time that I've noted a # that high .... makes sense as I would expect more attrition over the next year. Thread regarding 2018 Scholarship #s show only 15 senior schoolies which would make for 7 departures.

With that projected class size, recruiting rankings will take care of itself.

GBR!
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Nate Clouse said in a chat the other day he expects the class to be at least 23 and possibly up to 25+ FWIW.
 
Big Red Shrine said:
In the other thread I commented I was a glass half full guy here because of Frosts stated intent to fill the class later in the cycle and use the game day experience to its fullest.

After giving it more thought, a couple of things popped up. Do we need to pick up that pace a bit given the early signing period? He mentioned the need to have to work to keep them on board longer if they commit early, but shouldn’t we be putting that effort in either way?

I’ve also been to games at some of CFBs best venues. I love our game day experience. Places like Iowa, UCLA, and others can’t touch it. But to a kid from Kansas who isn’t a fan, are we really far and away better than the big boys in the BIG or many in the SEC? I don’t believe so. Is it awesome? Yes. As it is at Penn St and others.

Finally, anyone know Frosts policy on taking officials elsewhere after you commit to us? Thanks. I’ll hang up and listen.
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Have you been to a night game at LSU? It's Awesome.
 
N2FL said:
Have you been to a night game at LSU? It's Awesome.
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I can’t on account of the warrants.

Seriously, no, but through work I went to several BIG venues in the east when NU was still in the big 12 and they were awesome. Penn St night game was incredible. When Missouri handed it to us under Solich that whole town was electric for two days leading up to it. Georgia was fantastic and I would expect the top 1/2 to 2/3 of the SEC is that way. We always try to go in 1-2 days early to experience the restaurants and bars, which I is always fun, outside of Manhattan. I’ll probably get killed for lauding these experiences, so let me say in all sincerity...Colorado was horrible.
 
HuskerGene said:
If not for Bland, this would be in the D's. My glass is half full, i'm not worried because of the high caliber guys that have us in their top list that they stated are going to visit. My glass is half empty, if i had to make a prediction right now, we will end up in these recruits top5/8 and not land their commitment. So we will be relegated to lower "diamonds in the rough" and coaching them up, or my better guess is new guys will emerge that I haven't listed. Hoping for the latter. I wouldn't worry here, just need to keep working our board.

***, looking back 30 or so years the OL has been littered with Nebraskans every year. Do you think Coach Frost is holding out for someone home grown to emerge this year before he goes heavily after out-staters? We've had home grown All-Americans numerous times & we may have some on the team now & in the future, maybe all they need is some decent coaching & better time in the weight room.
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I think that would be what he wants, but it's a really weird year in-state. There just isn't an FBS worthy OL for the 2019 class at this time. Guys like Bena from Creighton Prep or Anietto from Millard West could get one with a strong senior year, but there could also be other guys that emerge. Just stinks that in a year where we are looking at taking 4 or 5 guys, there isn't really a guy in-state at a position there almost always is.
 




TnHusker87 said:
@ShortSideOption's OP suggests the recruiting budget will be 25: 'Currently sitting at 11 commits ... This list is based on us taking roughly 14 more guys, ...'

Seems like first time that I've noted a # that high .... makes sense as I would expect more attrition over the next year. Thread regarding 2018 Scholarship #s show only 15 senior schoolies which would make for 7 departures.

With that projected class size, recruiting rankings will take care of itself.

GBR!
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I think we will take anywhere between 21-25. Those numbers get a little fluid depending on who we are in on. For example, we can shut down OLB recruiting after one more if Snodgrass and Nelson are going to play there. Gets a little dicey with the numbers, but 7 is probably about right. 15 senior schollies, Engelhaupt gone already for one more, Bryant's health, one or two more possibly this summer, Washington, Canty, or Watt not making it here, then attrition from the season after people see who isn't going to play.
 
ShortSideOption said:
I think we will take anywhere between 21-25. Those numbers get a little fluid depending on who we are in on. For example, we can shut down OLB recruiting after one more if Snodgrass and Nelson are going to play there. Gets a little dicey with the numbers, but 7 is probably about right. 15 senior schollies, Engelhaupt gone already for one more, Bryant's health, one or two more possibly this summer, Washington, Canty, or Watt not making it here, then attrition from the season after people see who isn't going to play.
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what about Jalin Barnett is he coming around to get in some form of shape or just going to ride the schollie wave with free eats?
 



Question for *** and/or N2FL. If the staff had commitments from Johnson, Robinson, and Thompkins, would they still accept Grayson's commitment, or, would they consider the RB class full (assuming the three stayed committed)?
 

Old Gold Knight said:
Question for *** and/or N2FL. If the staff had commitments from Johnson, Robinson, and Thompkins, would they still accept Grayson's commitment, or, would they consider the RB class full (assuming the three stayed committed)?
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As in part ways with Grayson? Like *** has said, I'm hearing Grayson might flip if he gets an Oklahoma offer. But if he wanted to be in this class too, they'd take all four.
 
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