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    Its my belief that Braylon Heard wil be "N".

    With all that this guy is doing to become a Husker, he has my un-waivered support! We as Husker fans need to embrace this kid and once he gets here we should enjoy the ride!

    http://www.nebraska.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1110960

    The kid is really working his butt off to become a Husker!!! His next testing date is Sept 11th! Have faith!
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    Just out of curiousity... Do we know how many times he has taken it so far? And what score does he need?

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    Not sure how many times, but he does only need one more point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBHusker View Post
    With all that this guy is doing to become a Husker, he has my un-waivered support! We as Husker fans need to embrace this kid and once he gets here we should enjoy the ride!

    http://www.nebraska.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1110960

    The kid is really working his butt off to become a Husker!!! His next testing date is Sept 11th! Have faith!
    Great.....9-11

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    Quote Originally Posted by p-ville husker View Post
    Great.....9-11
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    Best of luck to Braylon with his testing.

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    Good luck Braylon! Husker Nation is pulling for you and you have all of our support both on and off the field!

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    I agree with you SB! Good luck, Braylon!

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    Is there a set score that one much achieve, and it is the same for all, or does the target score move dependent upon your GPA or class rank? If it is same for all, what is the necessary score?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUSKAHZ View Post
    Is there a set score that one much achieve, and it is the same for all, or does the target score move dependent upon your GPA or class rank? If it is same for all, what is the necessary score?
    The target score is a sliding score dependent on the athlete's GPA. I found this on the internet:

    https://web1.ncaa.org/eligibilitycen..._standards.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPhoenix View Post
    Good luck Braylon! Husker Nation is pulling for you and you have all of our support both on and off the field!
    Agree RP. Good luck Braylon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrolltonsker View Post
    The target score is a sliding score dependent on the athlete's GPA. I found this on the internet:

    https://web1.ncaa.org/eligibilitycen..._standards.pdf
    Thanks. Apparently the ACT scoring system has changed since I took it. Actually, I think it was discussed in a thread here before, but I will have to look up the old to new score comparison to know how difficult the scores might be to achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HUSKAHZ View Post
    Thanks. Apparently the ACT scoring system has changed since I took it. Actually, I think it was discussed in a thread here before, but I will have to look up the old to new score comparison to know how difficult the scores might be to achieve.
    It hasn't. It is just that the NCAA uses the sum of the four sections vs. average of the four sections. It gets around rounding issues, I would guess.

    I think it is safe to say he had some pretty poor grades and probably needs to be in the high teens if not low 20's.

    If you have terrible grades (2.000) you need a 21.5 average (86). Which is about average of all test takers. And a 60 (15.0 average) is really a very poor score (I got a 15 random guessing on one section - hey UNL was open admissions and I couldn't have cared less) is all that is required at 2.700 level.

    Here is how I see it
    ACT
    15 (60) 14% at or below
    16 (64) 20%
    17 (68) 26%
    18 (72) 33%
    19 (76) 40%
    20 (80) 48%
    21 (84) 55%
    22 (88) 62%

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleinTxHusker View Post
    It hasn't. It is just that the NCAA uses the sum of the four sections vs. average of the four sections. It gets around rounding issues, I would guess.

    I think it is safe to say he had some pretty poor grades and probably needs to be in the high teens if not low 20's.

    If you have terrible grades (2.000) you need a 21.5 average (86). Which is about average of all test takers. And a 60 (15.0 average) is really a very poor score (I got a 15 random guessing on one section - hey UNL was open admissions and I couldn't have cared less) is all that is required at 2.700 level.

    Here is how I see it
    ACT
    15 (60) 14% at or below
    16 (64) 20%
    17 (68) 26%
    18 (72) 33%
    19 (76) 40%
    20 (80) 48%
    21 (84) 55%
    22 (88) 62%
    Thanks. Summation methodology makes more sense to me than averaging, due to the rounding issue as you point out.

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    See, here's my thing. Its a fact that MOST people see a 3-4 point jump between their first and second test, just because you're more comfortable the second time. Beyond that? Its far more difficult to alter your score. Not impossible, but tough.

    Best of luck to Braylon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BornToBeRed View Post
    See, here's my thing. Its a fact that MOST people see a 3-4 point jump between their first and second test, just because you're more comfortable the second time. Beyond that? Its far more difficult to alter your score. Not impossible, but tough.

    Best of luck to Braylon.
    I would take that he isn't going JUCO to mean that the coaches think he has a very real chance to make it... I take it you mean three to four percentile... Now jumping from 15 to 19 just on not being nervous isn't likely... but buckling down and working hard on the basics plus being less nervous and better at test taking strategies, you could probably do a 15 to 19 improvement pretty easily... but getting the next increments gets progressively harder... Still, I would guess he just needs a point or two (four to eight) to qualify and the coaches must think it realistic that he can do it.

    My kids tended to hit the exact same score when they retook. They were on the higher end - so improvement is tougher, but they didn't go after it with the intensity that I would have liked... I do know of some kids who were able to jump from say a 1350 to 1450 with intense tutoring even though they were already well prepared and experienced test takers...

    This makes him a Gray shirt, if he qualifies... not necessarily a bad outcome for us...

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    In 2005 UNL required 2.5 gpa or 20 on ACT. I think they made exceptions too. You have to have a pulse to get into UNL. Maybe being D1 athlete is harder. I admittedly went to some of the best schools in Nebraska though (public anyways). Maybe Braylon didnt have great schools growing up

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    I suspect that he must be very close. I am still very skeptical, though, of the "one point away" declaration for several reasons. I wish him well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawkfanseth View Post
    In 2005 UNL required 2.5 gpa or 20 on ACT. I think they made exceptions too. You have to have a pulse to get into UNL. Maybe being D1 athlete is harder. I admittedly went to some of the best schools in Nebraska though (public anyways). Maybe Braylon didnt have great schools growing up
    He did go to a Catholic School which are usually way above most inner-city schools... I really don't understand a lot of kids not qualifying... IMO, you really have to work (or rather not work) at not qualifying. Kids are usually identified as being college football material by the eighth grade. High School coaches, especially at football powers, tend to be on top of or force the kids to be on top of academics. Yet some kids apparently just do not make the serious effort... and the GPA is in core academic classes only... So they really need to get a C or better in Algebra, Geometry, Sciences, etc.

    I tend to be real skeptical of kids who can't qualify. I am highly skeptical of their work ethic. A lot of the border line prospects I have seen in the area over the years who don't qualify never do... If they go to JUCOs most drop out... Look at the recent signees out of Texas we have had who didn't qualify... Three of them... only one ever made it onto a B-12 field and he got kicked off the team (ISU) after one season...

    NCAA is 2.5 and 17 or higher... not 2.5 or 17 (or 20)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleinTxHusker View Post
    I would take that he isn't going JUCO to mean that the coaches think he has a very real chance to make it... I take it you mean three to four percentile... Now jumping from 15 to 19 just on not being nervous isn't likely... but buckling down and working hard on the basics plus being less nervous and better at test taking strategies, you could probably do a 15 to 19 improvement pretty easily... but getting the next increments gets progressively harder... Still, I would guess he just needs a point or two (four to eight) to qualify and the coaches must think it realistic that he can do it.

    My kids tended to hit the exact same score when they retook. They were on the higher end - so improvement is tougher, but they didn't go after it with the intensity that I would have liked... I do know of some kids who were able to jump from say a 1350 to 1450 with intense tutoring even though they were already well prepared and experienced test takers...

    This makes him a Gray shirt, if he qualifies... not necessarily a bad outcome for us...
    I did not mean percentile. I meant points. As in, as you suggested, a 15 to 19 jump. Personally, I jumped four points on my retake of the ACT.
    That's why he has me worried about retaking. The biggest jump in score generally happens between the first and second test. Beyond that, it's a matter of buckling down on points of weakness. It shouldn't be overly difficult to mark up a couple points with the proper tutoring though, as you can see which questions you got wrong online when the results are released. It even goes as far as to tell you what the question focused on (algebra, geometry, trig, etc.).
    Depending on how far he needs to go, it could be a huge variety in how long until he qualifies.


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