Sadly, my expectations of Husker dominance must be lowered...

[YellowDent#2]

Nebraska was the birthplace of collegiate strength and conditioning perfection, so it breaks my heart to read what came out of Kyler Reed's mouth the other day: "We've also run more, especially earlier in the summer. Coach Dobson believes you can't over-train, and I agree."

This spells big trouble, my friends. B-I-G. The human body can only operate at miximum strength, speed and power over a short course of the year...and yes, it's easier to overtrain than undertrain. Decades of research and regimens have backed this up.

Mark my words, Nebraska Football needs to upgrade its training doctrine -and soon- or it will never get anywhere near the Top 10 consistently. There are too many programs out there who have caught up with what we were doing in the 90's... and they now overshadow us by eeking out that extra 1%,2%,3% improvement that gets the ball over the goal line or makes the pivotal defensive play late in the year when bodies are beaten up and bruised.

The old Big 10 gorillas used to fold at the end of the season precisely because of this type of training...and I am saddened that we are now following their lead instead of blazing a smarter, more dominating path.



http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.d...CLID=205562187

[Bo Pelinis Gum]

Nebraska was the birthplace of collegiate strength and conditioning perfection, so it breaks my heart to read what came out of Kyler Reed's mouth the other day: "We've also run more, especially earlier in the summer. Coach Dobson believes you can't over-train, and I agree."

This spells big trouble, my friends. B-I-G. The human body can only operate at miximum strength, speed and power over a short course of the year...and yes, it's easier to overtrain than undertrain. Decades of research and regimens have backed this up.

Mark my words, Nebraska Football needs to upgrade its training doctrine -and soon- or it will never get anywhere near the Top 10 consistently. There are too many programs out there who have caught up with what we were doing in the 90's... and they now overshadow us by eeking out that extra 1%,2%,3% improvement that gets the ball over the goal line or makes the pivotal defensive play late in the year when bodies are beaten up and bruised.

The old Big 10 gorillas used to fold at the end of the season precisely because of this type of training...and I am saddened that we are now following their lead instead of blazing a smarter, more dominating path.



http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.d...CLID=205562187

Over training might mean more plyometrics, more exercises working fast twitch muscles stuff like that. I doubt Dobson is having them do line drills or 100 yard sprints until they collapse, or doing squats and bench and cleans till all they can do is crumble into a pile of goo.

Training and conditioning are two different things. I believe you can over condition. But I guess too much of anything can be bad.

[Californication]

Tell that to Secretariat heading into the Belmont........they trained him hard instead of resting and he delivered a performance that may never be topped.

I also believe that you can't over-train, which includes mental prep, nutrition and rest, but you can overwork.

[YellowDent#2]

[QUOTE=Californication;1003589]Tell that to Secretariat heading into the Belmont........QUOTE]

That may be well and good, Californication, but Secretariat didn't have two-a-days starting in August and he didn't have mid-week reps and all the hits & tackles from Belgians and Clydesdales going full-speed 4 days out of the week.

The main goal of training is first to prevent injury, second to improve performance, and third to enable rejuvenation from injury. Every team is in peak condition the first week of September, but the best training ensures top-notch athleticism the last weeks of November when the weaker ones stumble and stub their toe. I see this happening to us (I hope I'm wrong)

[YellowDent#2]

I doubt Dobson is having them do line drills or 100 yard sprints until they collapse, or doing squats and bench and cleans till all they can do is crumble into a pile of goo.

That recently happened at Iowa... the same institution our present strength coach was plucked from.

[FeelLikeAStranger]

I don't know what world you were living in the past decade and a half, but whatever edge we had in the 90's evaporated around 1999 when Epley became a salesman rather than a strength coach. The entire S&C program has turned over 3X since then and there is essentially zero institutional knowledge left from that era.

Dobson was just named a "master" S&C coach, so somebody thinks he's ok.

[G33K]

There are two ways to read this comment. I took it to mean that Dobson didn't think they SHOULD overtrain, not that no amount was too much.

[DuckTownHusker]

Quick, somebody call Jason Peter and tell him the sissies don't want to train!

[YellowDent#2]

Quick, somebody call Jason Peter and tell him the sissies don't want to train!

?

[YellowDent#2]

I don't know what world you were living in the past decade and a half, but whatever edge we had in the 90's evaporated around 1999 when Epley became a salesman rather than a strength coach. The entire S&C program has turned over 3X since then and there is essentially zero institutional knowledge left from that era.

Dobson was just named a "master" S&C coach, so somebody thinks he's ok.

FLAS, Mike Arthur is still on staff there at NU. He is THE depository for s&c knowledge, bar none, and is being relegated to other areas non-football. It was he who created those 90's programs.

Boyd Epley was a maverick and a master visionary and administrator, but it was the boys out on the floor who made the program hit it's high gear. The players' determination, dedication, and resolve was the final piece of the puzzle.

"master SC" means you took the right test and belonged to the NSCA; it's simply a designation.

[husker6]

That's too bad, your so sad.

[AzHusker]

Physical conditioning (or lack thereof) has not been our problem at the end of the last few seasons.

I don't see it as a problem now.

On the other hand, I don't have expectations for dominance this season, either, though I would enjoy being pleasantly surprised.

[BubbaGene]

It's the 80's S&C program that made NU great... others had caught up by the 90's.

[YellowDent#2]

Physical conditioning (or lack thereof) has not been our problem at the end of the last few seasons.

I don't see it as a problem now.

On the other hand, I don't have expectations for dominance this season, either, though I would enjoy being pleasantly surprised.

Time will tell, AzH, time will tell. I only know that in order to make a move up the ladder we must do everything and use every tool at our disposal to gain that extra inch. My experience and historical knowledge tell me that we are leaving something on the table.

[Bo Pelinis Gum]

That recently happened at Iowa... the same institution our present strength coach was plucked from.

I was unaware people were turning into goo piles at Iowa.

[Bo Pelinis Gum]

Time will tell, AzH, time will tell. I only know that in order to make a move up the ladder we must do everything and use every tool at our disposal to gain that extra inch. My experience and historical knowledge tell me that we are leaving something on the table.

Just to clarify, youre not an advocate of overtraining (and fearful thats what we are doing)... yet we are leaving something on the table and not training enough? I guess Im confused on what you are trying to say.

[YellowDent#2]

It's the 80's S&C program that made NU great... others had caught up by the 90's.

It experienced a sea-change in 1991, BubbaGene, and that's what took NU to the top level for that dominant decade. Many people are still catching up to what Nebraska was doing in the 90's, including some pro teams.

[YellowDent#2]

Just to clarify, youre not an advocate of overtraining... yet we are leaving something on the table or not training enough? I guess Im confused on what you are trying to say.

Hey BPG, I am advocating for not overtraining. The body must experience a stressor that will induce an alarm response in the form of adaptation. This adaptation occurs with a commensurate amount of rest. With overtraining that rest is not fully utilized, hence the maximum adaptation does not occur. If this occurs too often then you have overtraining...and underperforming for failure to elicit the greatest quantity of positive adaptations.

[YellowDent#2]

I was unaware people were turning into goo piles at Iowa.

See here:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...zed/55866740/1

[Bo Pelinis Gum]

Hey BPG, I am advocating for not overtraining. The body must experience a stressor that will induce an alarm response in the form of adaptation. This adaptation occurs with a commensurate amount of rest. With overtraining that rest is not fully utilized, hence the maximum adaptation does not occur. If this occurs too often then you have overtraining...and underperforming for failure to elicit the greatest quantity of positive adaptations.

I understand your concern, and you back it up with knowledge. But I have to say, theres been evidence of lack of conditioning or training towards the end of the year, not the other way around. So if this "over training" is something new, I welcome it and hope the results show on the field. This is still college. These kids arent at the gym 24 hours a day, they get enough rest with class times, film sessions, coach meetings and their normal sleep cycles. If we field a team of guys that cant bend over to tie their shoes because their muscles are so bulging then Ill be concerened. Until then I have faith in our S&C program.