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    Quote Originally Posted by nems View Post
    I guess I will never understand why people feel the need to pretend Obama is something he's not.
    Irony. You seem to think you know him best of anyone.
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    Neither of these guys is a great Satan. Obama likes business leaders plenty. He was just making a point about how government is vital as well.

    Disclosure: right now I'm leaning toward voting Romney, but I voted Obama last time. If it were really the case that Obama hated business leaders, that would make the choice easy for me, but it's not so simple.

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    Do you see how toxic the President's comments have become? He doesn't hate business, or business leaders, he just believes that they owe a portion of their success to the government.

    But he really stuck his foot in his mouth. He has accidentally made Romney a defender of small business and has taken Romney out of the negative impression he has been building some momentum with. Biggest gift of the campaign so far.

    As for saying 02 Romney comments regarding olympic athelets agreeing with the Presidents comments, no body is buying that. Not even the folks here saying it. It is just an attempt to minimize this self inflicted wound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huskerator 5000 View Post
    Neither of these guys is a great Satan. Obama likes business leaders plenty. He was just making a point about how government is vital as well.

    Disclosure: right now I'm leaning toward voting Romney, but I voted Obama last time. If it were really the case that Obama hated business leaders, that would make the choice easy for me, but it's not so simple.
    I understand the partisan divide and understand i am as guilty as anyone when it comes to being entrenched in my views and positions.

    One thing I can't understand is either an independent or someone on the fence voting for Obama in 2012. History shows us that a second term president almost always is ineffectual and usually gets bogged down in some sort of scandal or ineffectiveness. Nixon,Reagan,Clinton,Bush (W) all had second term disasters when it comes to scandal or lousy governing, I don't understand how others think a second Obama term would break the historical precedence .

    It also appears that the Republicans will control both the Senate and house so having a second term seems to be a recipe for nothing to happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gypsyhusker View Post
    Do you see how toxic the President's comments have become? He doesn't hate business, or business leaders, he just believes that they owe a portion of their success to the government.

    But he really stuck his foot in his mouth. He has accidentally made Romney a defender of small business and has taken Romney out of the negative impression he has been building some momentum with. Biggest gift of the campaign so far.

    As for saying 02 Romney comments regarding olympic athelets agreeing with the Presidents comments, no body is buying that. Not even the folks here saying it. It is just an attempt to minimize this self inflicted wound.
    I couldn't agree more.While so many get bogged down in numbers, tax codes just basic economic minutiae, what a lot of this boils down to is confidence and just basically feeling good about yourself. When the president seemingly makes a group feel less than it takes away the spirit and brings down any confidence that needs to be instilled for people to excel. It seems like it has been a four year bludgeoning of business and the private sector and i would expect the business community is weary of all this, less we forget the attacks on the Chamber of Commerce his first year or 2 in office.

    I watched this very thing happen in 1979 the country was told by president Carter that the United States would have to get used to being less than they have been. The country was in this rut, lack of confidence and the country finally rejected that thinking, hopefully this is 1979/80 repeating itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColoREDo View Post
    Irony. You seem to think you know him best of anyone.
    He has written books, given a million speeches and talks about himself all the time.

    At this point we all know who he is. So when his campaign lies its obvious.

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    Obama hates business so much he brought Summers on as his top economic guy. He brought on that GE guy for his jobs guy. But I guess it's his 2nd term that is when he plans the big Muslim, socialist take over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusboy View Post
    Obama hates business so much he brought Summers on as his top economic guy. He brought on that GE guy for his jobs guy. But I guess it's his 2nd term that is when he plans the big Muslim, socialist take over.

    Again. His priority is growing government. His first term clearly supports that fact. As the country was in a recession, he focused on health care and federal stimulus. He has spent his entire first term promising to increase income taxes on business both big and small. Rather than securing our private sector economy, he has been focused on securing the public sector.

    He doesn't hate business, he just considers public service of greater importance and working for the private sector as being behind enemy lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusboy View Post
    Obama hates business so much he brought Summers on as his top economic guy. He brought on that GE guy for his jobs guy. But I guess it's his 2nd term that is when he plans the big Muslim, socialist take over.
    Yet another strawman. Care to state who has claimed he "plans a big Muslim, socialist takeover?" By the way, might be nice if he prioritized actually meeting with "that GE guy and the jobs council he created. As of today, I think its been 193 days since he's had a meeting of his "jobs council." Too busy campaigning and lying about Romney, maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nems View Post
    Again. His priority is growing government. His first term clearly supports that fact. As the country was in a recession, he focused on health care and federal stimulus. He has spent his entire first term promising to increase income taxes on business both big and small. Rather than securing our private sector economy, he has been focused on securing the public sector.

    He doesn't hate business, he just considers public service of greater importance and working for the private sector as being behind enemy lines.
    Yes in a near great depression he wanted govt to spend and correct what went wrong. BIIIIG surprise a president would want to do that.

    Focused on securing the public sector?? Look at how many hundreds of thousands of public sector jobs we've lost since he became POTUS. He could be pushing for lots of things to save those jobs but really didn't.

    He just wants a healthy balance. Nothing Obama has done is in any way extreme, especially when you consider the circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McKinneyTXHusker View Post
    Yet another strawman. Care to state who has claimed he "plans a big Muslim, socialist takeover?"
    Wow, I think you have something here. You should really run w/ this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusboy View Post
    Yes in a near great depression he wanted govt to spend and correct what went wrong. BIIIIG surprise a president would want to do that.

    Focused on securing the public sector?? Look at how many hundreds of thousands of public sector jobs we've lost since he became POTUS. He could be pushing for lots of things to save those jobs but really didn't.

    He just wants a healthy balance. Nothing Obama has done is in any way extreme, especially when you consider the circumstances.

    I agree with this...damn it CB, knock it off. you're making me look bad




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    Quote Originally Posted by cactusboy View Post
    Wow, I think you have something here. You should really run w/ this.
    Its humorous watching your complete non-responses when you're obviously caught. Thanks for the chuckles, CB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McKinneyTXHusker View Post
    Its humorous watching your complete non-responses when you're obviously caught. Thanks for the chuckles, CB.

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