[QUOTE][A source who also called the penalties unprecedented and harsh told ESPN's Joe Schad they will likely include a loss of bowl appearances and/or scholarships. It is expected the NCAA Division I Board of Directors and/or the NCAA Executive Committee has granted Emmert the authority to punish through non-traditional methods, the source said. To any degree, the NCAA is taking unprecedented measures with the decision to penalize Penn State without the traditional due process of a Committee on Infractions hearing. /QUOTE]
I bet there is no game in Lincoln Nov 10. One less airline ticket for me to buy this year.
I don't think you should make that bet. Scholarships, bowl games and perhaps severe financial penalties are what's in store for Penn St. Perhaps playing the games in front of 100's of thousands of people just might humble the Penn St. program and their fans?
I cannot imagine that they have made specific decisions on the punishments so quickly after the release of the report. It will be interesting to see what happens on Monday.
I cannot imagine that they have made specific decisions on the punishments so quickly after the release of the report. It will be interesting to see what happens on Monday.
I think they've been talking about options since November. So I would think they could issue them lickety split as timing is everything in this case. The public won't take well to a year long investigation by the NCAA followed by hearings (like Miami).
I think they've been talking about options since November. So I would think they could issue them lickety split as timing is everything in this case. The public won't take well to a year long investigation by the NCAA followed by hearings (like Miami).
I posted this in response to a FB post by Kent Pavelka:
I have no problem with major sanctions against the football program. I don't, however, want to see the entire region tank economically because the NCAA killed the football program. The similarities between Lincoln and State College are myriad. If NU's football program were shut down it would kill the city economically.
I also think that PSU is going to get hammered partially because the NCAA has taken such criticism over that last decade for doing almost nothing to Miami, OSU, or USC. The NCAA is going to reassert its authority in a big way.
[A source who also called the penalties unprecedented and harsh told ESPN's Joe Schad they will likely include a loss of bowl appearances and/or scholarships. It is expected the NCAA Division I Board of Directors and/or the NCAA Executive Committee has granted Emmert the authority to punish through non-traditional methods, the source said. To any degree, the NCAA is taking unprecedented measures with the decision to penalize Penn State without the traditional due process of a Committee on Infractions hearing. /QUOTE]
This quote sheds a little light on "unprecedented". Yes, they will lose scholarships and bowl appearances. We'll find out how much tomorrow.
I really hate Penn State! (And I'm not that wild about Iowa either.)
On ESPN today talking multi-bowl game ban....2 perhaps 3 years....significant reduction in scholarships....anywhere from 10-20 a year and if depending on the number of blow gam losses the players who are Soph-SR's in these years will be allowed to transfer (similar to USC).....
Notre Dame only had one Rudy but Nebraska gets a new crop of Rudys every season
Won't be the death penalty....but darn close if they lose three bowl games and 15-20 skollies a year......and I think that is the way is probably should be....
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On ESPN today talking multi-bowl game ban....2 perhaps 3 years....significant reduction in scholarships....anywhere from 10-20 a year and if depending on the number of blow gam losses the players who are Soph-SR's in these years will be allowed to transfer (similar to USC).....
Notre Dame only had one Rudy but Nebraska gets a new crop of Rudys every season
Won't be the death penalty....but darn close if they lose three bowl games and 15-20 skollies a year......and I think that is the way is probably should be....
This also from ESPN "The penalties...are considered so harsh that the death penalty may have been preferable, the source said."
If the death penalty is "preferable" we could be looking at longer than a decade before Penn State is relevant again as a football program. This may make the time Oklahoma took to recover from probation look like a walk in the park. They won't be SMU because other than paying players there was no reason SMU should have been good in the first place. Penn State will be good again, just not for a long time.
Don't do a drug you find in Oakland. Ever.---The Oral History of the Big 12
After reading the rest of the ESPN article, including a response by an unnamed Penn State trustee, I would be very surprised if Penn State does not sue the NCAA over this.
The penalties were authorized by other university presidents and will be handed down directly by NCAA president Mark Emmertt based on the Freeh report, not an NCAA investigation by the infractions committee. This is completely new ground. Penn State will not actually be charged with "lack of institutional control" because that charge would have to be made by the infractions committee and can be appealed. Emmertt can't charge Penn State with "lack of institutional control" himself.
There will be lawsuits over this and I wouldn't be totally shocked if a judge blocks the NCAA from imposing these penalties until a full trial. This is going to get very ugly.
Don't do a drug you find in Oakland. Ever.---The Oral History of the Big 12
This also from ESPN "The penalties...are considered so harsh that the death penalty may have been preferable, the source said."
If the death penalty is "preferable" we could be looking at longer than a decade before Penn State is relevant again as a football program. This may make the time Oklahoma took to recover from probation look like a walk in the park. They won't be SMU because other than paying players there was no reason SMU should have been good in the first place. Penn State will be good again, just not for a long time.
Has Penn St been relative in the LAST decade? As someone pointed out on sports talk radio today, the school has enough $$ to rebound pretty quickly from a 1 or 2 year death penalty. But if they have a multiple-year scholarship loss and bowl ban, that is much much worse.
After reading the rest of the ESPN article, including a response by an unnamed Penn State trustee, I would be very surprised if Penn State does not sue the NCAA over this.
The penalties were authorized by other university presidents and will be handed down directly by NCAA president Mark Emmertt based on the Freeh report, not an NCAA investigation by the infractions committee. This is completely new ground. Penn State will not actually be charged with "lack of institutional control" because that charge would have to be made by the infractions committee and can be appealed. Emmertt can't charge Penn State with "lack of institutional control" himself.
There will be lawsuits over this and I wouldn't be totally shocked if a judge blocks the NCAA from imposing these penalties until a full trial. This is going to get very ugly.
Yep...the "chair" that was quoted througout the ESPN article didn't exactly sound like he was on board with what the NCAA was doing. This will drag on for quite some time.
And whoever on this board questioned PSU motives for taking down the statue...saying it was just trying to appease the NCAA...was correct. The most recent ESPN update quotes a trustee saying just that. I am amazed every day at how completely delusional these people at PSU are.
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