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    Park Ridge, Ill. - The Big Ten Conference announced today the 36 student-athletes scheduled to attend the 2012 Big Ten Media Days and Kickoff Luncheon, held Thursday and Friday, July 26 and 27, at the Hyatt Regency McCormick Place and McCormick Place Convention Center in Chicago. The 41st annual luncheon is one of the most exciting and unique preseason events in college football.

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    Many have expressed surprise, and even concern, about the absence (again) of our signal caller. Certainly the media and fans would prefer to see him over either Reed or Compton. What do you guys think about Taylor not appearing in Chicago for the second straight year, despite many reports that he has assumed a greater leadership presence in the offseason? Or with three Seniors making the trek is this much ado about nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker Mort View Post
    Many have expressed surprise, and even concern, about the absence (again) of our signal caller. Certainly the media and fans would prefer to see him over either Reed or Compton. What do you guys think about Taylor not appearing in Chicago for the second straight year, despite many reports that he has assumed a greater leadership presence in the offseason? Or with three Seniors making the trek is this much ado about nothing?
    Much ado about nothing, IMO. Also, I am curious if the bold is your opinion or have you seen/read/observed this from another source. I haven't seen anything to support that.

    I would assume the reps are chosen based not only on their leadership skills but also their abilities or capabilities in communicating with the media. The impact of communication with the media should be very apparent to Husker fans when Bo himself has had issues with that ability and which I believe with experience is improving. I am not to sure there is a correlation with team leadership and communication with media skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker Mort View Post
    Many have expressed surprise, and even concern, about the absence (again) of our signal caller. Certainly the media and fans would prefer to see him over either Reed or Compton. What do you guys think about Taylor not appearing in Chicago for the second straight year, despite many reports that he has assumed a greater leadership presence in the offseason? Or with three Seniors making the trek is this much ado about nothing?
    Isnt Martinez suppose to be at the Manning Academy for QB's around that time? I dont recall the exact dates, but Martinez was invited to this with some pulling of the strings of his Cal QB coach Calhoun who actually is a coach there at that camp. Im too lazy to look up the exact dates for you. IMO he needs to stay away from the media anyway and concentrate on improving.

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    NM...i got curious and looked and that academy is later this week. So they prob just want to keep him away from media for right now until season rolls around. Too much scrutiny of their QB and anticipation due to word getting out that he has been working hard at improving mechanics I would think. Its a tough call, but the decision prob has best university/program interests in mind.

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    Maybe if the QB coaching thing works out, next spring/summer they can send him to work with a PR coach instead so he'll be a better interviewee his senior year.

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    Yeah, I think it's interesting that he won't be there, but it doesn't shock or disappoint me either. Taylor is not comfortable in front of the media, and he probably would rather skip the event. I suspect Bo would skip it too if he could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carrolltonsker View Post
    Yeah, I think it's interesting that he won't be there, but it doesn't shock or disappoint me either. Taylor is not comfortable in front of the media, and he probably would rather skip the event. I suspect Bo would skip it too if he could.
    Bo understands that he has an obligation to do media things, so he does them and generally does a decent job, especially at fluff events like this.

    Martinez, for all the hype, doesn't seem to want to have anything to do with the public. I get it. Tommie Frazier didn't much care for the media, either. But he gave interviews, spoke to reporters. Martinez's refusal is unfortunate, because it would give him the opportunity to tell his side of things or to sell himself to Husker fans who aren't sold on him yet.

    As a leader of the team, taking on the media is something that could help send a message. By shirking the media (which he's done for most of his career), it may also send a message. Fear? Or focus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pop Corn View Post
    Much ado about nothing, IMO. Also, I am curious if the bold is your opinion or have you seen/read/observed this from another source. I haven't seen anything to support that.

    I would assume the reps are chosen based not only on their leadership skills but also their abilities or capabilities in communicating with the media. The impact of communication with the media should be very apparent to Husker fans when Bo himself has had issues with that ability and which I believe with experience is improving. I am not to sure there is a correlation with team leadership and communication with media skills.
    The Husker beat reporters have routinely requested T-Mart for post-game interviews and features to no avail, but I don't believe that the media get to request anyone at conference media days. A cursory look at who other teams are bringing reveals that every program with a returning starter, save Ohio St, is showing up with their signal caller. Even Mich St is bringing their presumed starter that has big shoes to fill.

    Showing up with your QB is pretty standard, except when your QB is media averse, I suppose.
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    Not a personal knock on T-mart but I prefer he not be the one at the Big Media days. He is not a good speaker and the sharks in the media would have no questions for anyone but T-mart. "Hows the throwing motions going bla bla bla"

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    Hey, another thread questioning Martinez!

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    Originally Posted by Husker Mort
    A cursory look at who other teams are bringing reveals that every program with a returning starter, save Ohio St, is showing up with their signal caller.
    Nebraska has company. 5 of the 12 left their QB at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskrthill View Post

    Martinez, for all the hype, doesn't seem to want to have anything to do with the public. I get it. Tommie Frazier didn't much care for the media, either. But he gave interviews, spoke to reporters. Martinez's refusal is unfortunate, because it would give him the opportunity to tell his side of things or to sell himself to Husker fans who aren't sold on him yet.

    As a leader of the team, taking on the media is something that could help send a message. By shirking the media (which he's done for most of his career), it may also send a message. Fear? Or focus?
    I think you might be going out on a limb here to compare TM to TF with respect to the media. Tommy was a Communications major so he was at least prepared somewhat to deal with the media. Also Tommy never did have to defend a loss like Wisconsin or Michigan. Another point is that I perceive them to be very very different personalities. From what I have read about TM, he is a very private person and some of the players close to him have said that he is almost bashful or shy and that is often confused with aloofness or even arrogance. IIRC, when he started as a freshman, he was so soft spoken the coaches had to teach him to call out the plays with more volume in the huddle to make sure everybody heard the play.

    The other point about Frazier and Martinez is that they are worlds apart in the respect fans have for them. I am going to guess that there is probably nothing that TM could say that would change some peoples mind about what type of quarterback he is. My gut feeling is that he feels as though the only way to change anyone's mind on that topic is to do it on the field. That is why he is dedicating so much time, effort and money to improve.

    There are some that enjoy the spotlight and others that cringe at the prospect. You mentioned fear and that is dead on if by that you meant fear of speaking publicly. That is my perception of Taylor Martinez with respect to the media. He has enough on his plate without the burden of trying to convince the media and critics that he is a really good guy. And like Hutto already mentioned, can you imagine the presser if he was one of the three. It would be turned into a sideshow with the guys wanting to get a headline from him on his "improvement" over the summer. I think Bo anticipated a fiasco and wisely avoided that confrontation by taking the guys that like the limelight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pop Corn View Post
    Nebraska has company. 5 of the 12 left their QB at home.

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    Mike Taylor, Sr., LB*
    Ricky Wagner, Sr., LT*

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    Jordan Hill, Sr., DT*
    Silas Redd, Jr., TB*
    John Urschel, Jr., OG

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    Etienne Sabino, Sr., LB
    John Simon, Sr., DL*

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    Will Matte, Sr., C
    Adam Replogle, Sr., DT

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    Any of those teams have a 3rd year starter returning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskrthill View Post
    Any of those teams have a 3rd year starter returning?
    I don't know. "signal caller" was the topic and that is what i addressed.

    Maybe that was a rhetorical question and you are trying to make a point that eludes me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pop Corn View Post
    I don't know. "signal caller" was the topic and that is what i addressed.

    Maybe that was a rhetorical question and you are trying to make a point that eludes me.
    I don't think it would be all that odd to not bring your first-year starting quarterback, especially if you maybe haven't even settled on who that is going to be. Kind of like 2010. No big deal that Martinez wasn't there, because none of us really knew he was starting until the day of the game.

    Fast forward to 2012 and he's going into his third season as the starting QB. The field general. The man everyone listens to in the huddle. He should be VOLUNTEERING to be front and center, leading his team on all fronts. This is Taylor's team, but he still seems to be reluctant to reach out and take hold of it. To some, it would appear that he may be a bit timid. If he can't handle a few out-of-shape, middle-aged reporters for a few minutes, how well can he handle the pressure when things go badly in a game? We've certainly seen him panic and self-destruct more than a couple of times.

    I'd just like to see a little more fortitude from the man. He's two months away from being 22 years old. At some point, whether in football or in the real world, he's going to have to face challenging questions. This is a perfect opportunity to develop that poise under pressure so that he can give a good answer when his boss asks him why something isn't going as expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pop Corn View Post
    I think you might be going out on a limb here to compare TM to TF with respect to the media. Tommy was a Communications major so he was at least prepared somewhat to deal with the media. Also Tommy never did have to defend a loss like Wisconsin or Michigan. Another point is that I perceive them to be very very different personalities. From what I have read about TM, he is a very private person and some of the players close to him have said that he is almost bashful or shy and that is often confused with aloofness or even arrogance. IIRC, when he started as a freshman, he was so soft spoken the coaches had to teach him to call out the plays with more volume in the huddle to make sure everybody heard the play.
    Tommie had the confidence to go in and take charge. Taylor hasn't shown that yet. I hope he does at some point.

    The other point about Frazier and Martinez is that they are worlds apart in the respect fans have for them. I am going to guess that there is probably nothing that TM could say that would change some peoples mind about what type of quarterback he is. My gut feeling is that he feels as though the only way to change anyone's mind on that topic is to do it on the field. That is why he is dedicating so much time, effort and money to improve.
    I think that people would actually like to hear it from him for a change. I'm not just concerned about his footwork or his throwing motion... what kind of a person is he? Is he wanting to take a leadership role? Has he done so? We hear from his teammates, but never from him.

    There are some that enjoy the spotlight and others that cringe at the prospect. You mentioned fear and that is dead on if by that you meant fear of speaking publicly. That is my perception of Taylor Martinez with respect to the media. He has enough on his plate without the burden of trying to convince the media and critics that he is a really good guy. And like Hutto already mentioned, can you imagine the presser if he was one of the three. It would be turned into a sideshow with the guys wanting to get a headline from him on his "improvement" over the summer. I think Bo anticipated a fiasco and wisely avoided that confrontation by taking the guys that like the limelight.
    I think that this type of sideshow could have been avoided if Taylor had made himself more available over the last two seasons. If he has a problem with public speaking, now is the time to work on it. His "job" is secure right now... it may not be when he enters the real world. I don't know what he plans on doing with his life, but he's majoring in Advertising. I am guessing there will be some interaction with the public (as well as clients/bosses) in that line of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskrthill View Post

    I think that people would actually like to hear it from him for a change. I'm not just concerned about his footwork or his throwing motion... what kind of a person is he? Is he wanting to take a leadership role? Has he done so? We hear from his teammates, but never from him.
    Agreed. Taylor tends to come off as very surly in press conferences. I would also like to hear from him what he is doing to become a better QB and team leader.
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    Like I said, there is little Taylor or anyone else for that matter, including myself, can say to change the mindset or the attitude of his critics. They all say they hope he will get better but I am not sure of the sincerity nor the confidence that they believe anything will change.

    What he is doing has given me hope and I have to believe that there will be a change.

    You have your opinion about his leadership capabilities and it is pointless to argue that also. I coached HS ball for 21 years and know there are many different styles of leadership. Some are not comfortable with the public exhibition of those skill and others are. We have absolutely no way of knowing for sure if his leadership strategy is effective. I have to put my faith in what I have read about his relationship with others on the team and I have not seen anything but positive remarks about him from his peers. That is the key issue and we will all be able to make a judgement about his leadership skills in a few short months by the product that is put on the field. You may be one of those who feel that he will never get any better than what we have already seen. I am not buying into that until I have evidence which supports that POV.

    And as I said at the beginning of this discussion, I do not think his appearance at this circus has anything to do with his leadership of his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pop Corn View Post
    Like I said, there is little Taylor or anyone else for that matter, including myself, can say to change the mindset or the attitude of his critics. They all say they hope he will get better but I am not sure of the sincerity nor the confidence that they believe anything will change.

    What he is doing has given me hope and I have to believe that there will be a change.

    You have your opinion about his leadership capabilities and it is pointless to argue that also. I coached HS ball for 21 years and know there are many different styles of leadership. Some are not comfortable with the public exhibition of those skill and others are. We have absolutely no way of knowing for sure if his leadership strategy is effective. I have to put my faith in what I have read about his relationship with others on the team and I have not seen anything but positive remarks about him from his peers. That is the key issue and we will all be able to make a judgement about his leadership skills in a few short months by the product that is put on the field. You may be one of those who feel that he will never get any better than what we have already seen. I am not buying into that until I have evidence which supports that POV.

    And as I said at the beginning of this discussion, I do not think his appearance at this circus has anything to do with his leadership of his team.

    I agree with you. I did not realize that the Big 10 Press Conference was hazardous duty where only the brave volunteered. Also, we do not know the final selection process...maybe he did volunteer, but it was decided to send the three that are going. Maybe he wanted to go, but felt that the focus would be too much on him and not on the team.

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    Of course, if he does go to media days and acquit himself well, then his critics will be criticizing him for not passing it up to work on his throwing mechanics.
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