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I look forward to the day when the Pro-life crowd is ALSO anti-capital punishment.
And vociferously defends the taking of life at both ends of the spectrum.
"...when I came to Nebraska I was blown away and said 'dang, this is ridiculous.' It was way nicer here than Oklahoma." Trai Mosley
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 Originally Posted by Husker Mort
I look forward to the day when the Pro-life crowd is ALSO anti-capital punishment.
And vociferously defends the taking of life at both ends of the spectrum.
"The distinctive mark of the Christian, today more than ever, must be love for the poor, the weak, the suffering." Pope John Paul II
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 Originally Posted by Husker Mort
I look forward to the day when the Pro-life crowd is ALSO anti-capital punishment.
And vociferously defends the taking of life at both ends of the spectrum.
Of course, I also look forward to the day that people who are anti-capital punishment see the value of defending innocent human life at the beginning of the spectrum in addition to the generally evil human beings they are defending at the other end of the spectrum.
In any event, your point is well-taken. People should consistently defend the sanctity of life in all its forms, and should abhor the taking of human life whenever it occurs. Which is why I am both pro-life on abortion and anti-capital punishment.
"The distinctive mark of the Christian, today more than ever, must be love for the poor, the weak, the suffering." Pope John Paul II
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 Originally Posted by ChitownHusker
Of course, I also look forward to the day that people who are anti-capital punishment see the value of defending innocent human life at the beginning of the spectrum in addition to the generally evil human beings they are defending at the other end of the spectrum.
In any event, your point is well-taken. People should consistently defend the sanctity of life in all its forms, and should abhor the taking of human life whenever it occurs. Which is why I am both pro-life on abortion and anti-capital punishment.
Completely consistent position that I can support and respect.
I think the nation could collectively arrive at a pretty good compromise that would put both issues to bed if not for politicians needing the wedge issues.
"...when I came to Nebraska I was blown away and said 'dang, this is ridiculous.' It was way nicer here than Oklahoma." Trai Mosley
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 Originally Posted by Husker Mort
Completely consistent position that I can support and respect.
I think the nation could collectively arrive at a pretty good compromise that would put both issues to bed if not for politicians needing the wedge issues.
That's so true of many issues in this country.
"The distinctive mark of the Christian, today more than ever, must be love for the poor, the weak, the suffering." Pope John Paul II
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 Originally Posted by Husker Mort
Completely consistent position that I can support and respect.
I think the nation could collectively arrive at a pretty good compromise that would put both issues to bed if not for politicians needing the wedge issues.
Seems like that sentiment applies to a little bit more than just abortion and the death penalty.
And by "a little bit", I mean every issue ever.
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
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 Originally Posted by ChitownHusker
That's so true of many issues in this country.
Beat me to it.
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance.
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 Originally Posted by RedBlack&Blue
yes just like that

For every minute you remain angry, you give up sixty seconds of peace of mind.
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 Originally Posted by ChitownHusker
Yeah, this is pretty traditional Catholic position.
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 Originally Posted by Husker Mort
I look forward to the day when the Pro-life crowd is ALSO anti-capital punishment.
And vociferously defends the taking of life at both ends of the spectrum.
I'm pro choice and pro capital punishment ....so i can defend both side of the spectrum

For every minute you remain angry, you give up sixty seconds of peace of mind.
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I support capital punishment (but in a much more diminished role than we have in most states today). I personally think we execute way to many people and should be focused on extreme violations of specific crimes.
Saying that no one has been able to tell me what crime a baby (fetus) committed to warrant the sanction of being killed.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” – Winston Churchill
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 Originally Posted by Pops
I'm pro choice and pro capital punishment ....so i can defend both side of the spectrum
Kill 'em all Pops
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” – Winston Churchill
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 Originally Posted by FLA4NEB
Bush caused all their problems?
I'm not all the way on your bandwagon on this theme, but I thought this remark was funny as hell.
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 Originally Posted by huskernut
I'm not all the way on your bandwagon on this theme, but I thought this remark was funny as hell. 
Well, I blame Bush for you not being all the way on my bandwagon!
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” – Winston Churchill
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 Originally Posted by FLA4NEB
Well, I blame Bush for you not being all the way on my bandwagon!
It IS Bush's fault.
"The distinctive mark of the Christian, today more than ever, must be love for the poor, the weak, the suffering." Pope John Paul II
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 Originally Posted by FLA4NEB
Well, I blame Bush for you not being all the way on my bandwagon!
You would be right. 
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I had the same answer as Nishi, not the extra credit one Chi was looking for.
I have no problem with capital punishment if it is fairly administered. And I actually don't care that we are in such "esteemed company", nor do I think that fact says anything useful about the debate. No offense to those who do.
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 Originally Posted by FLA4NEB
Kill 'em all Pops 
hey its this country that taught me that!

For every minute you remain angry, you give up sixty seconds of peace of mind.
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 Originally Posted by Husker Mort
I look forward to the day when the Pro-life crowd is ALSO anti-capital punishment.
And vociferously defends the taking of life at both ends of the spectrum.
pro-life and pro-capital punishment are not incongruent postitions. The taking of an innocent life is much different than taking the life of a hardened, anti-social criminal.
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Hypothetically speaking, I'm OK with a death penalty. There are some people who truly relinquish their right to be among the human race with their actions, I do believe that. The problem lies within it being administered by a court system that ultimately doesn't give a fair shake to a lot of low-income suspects, and from the prosecutor's side is geared more towards getting the W than finding out the truth. It's somewhat heartening that DNA evidence is now clearing people, and probably will clear many more in the future, but if even one innocent man is put to death--and we know it's been more than that over the years--then the system has a very fatal flaw and executions should cease, IMHO.
The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum--Noam Chomsky
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