Frustrated With the Current Lull

[ShortSideOption]

Isn't it enough that your hypothetical coach is 5 years old? Why he gotta be armless?

Sounded funnier to me...

[N2FL]

I was waiting for the Lucky defender and luckily someone took the bait. Getting beat out your senior year by a younger player as a 5 star is every bit a bust....unless you expect 5 stars to be back ups???

And before the rebuttle comes out I would assume a "bust" is someone that does not meet expectations on the field? Let me know if Lucky met your expectations you had for him when he signed. And also before you tell me that Lucky started a majority of the games so he wasn't a back up, that kind of argument will get you laughed out of Memorial Stadium. Lucky towards the end of the year was getting courtesy receptions and carries as he was being out-played by Castille and Helu Jr.

I see the Marlon Lucky example brought up sometimes. Here is my

Marlon Lucky should have redshirted, but his hype would not allow it. He played behind NFL players Cory Ross and then Brandon Jackson. When his time came as a junior, he had a great season. As a senior he shared time with another NFL player in Roy Helu. IMPO he was a good college player. He ranks 17th in rushing and 4th in both all-purpose yards and receptions. I feel like most fans think he was a "bust" because he wasnt the program-changer he was expected to be. He was a solid college RB. A "bust"? Not IMPO. A disappointment? Absolutely. He was a concensus top 3-5 RB in the country. You could have called him the best and not been looked at funny. He was far more hyped than Aaron Green was recently.

[huskon4ever!]

I think we all can agree that if he was a 2 or 3 star that committed he would have been a "diamond in the rough". He was a 5 star...

Well he's gonna turn out better than Aaron Green (too soon?)... for Nebraska anyway Just for arguments sake - Lucky ranks #14 for most yards in a single game with 233 vs Nevada '07, 8 100 yard games, rushed for over 1k yards in '07, #18 all-time on the rushing records with 2,393 yards, holds the #2 and #3 records for receptions in a single game (13 and 11 respectively), most receptions by a RB in a season and career (75 and 135), most rec yards by a RB in a season and career (705 and 1,379) and those career numbers put him 4th on the Nebraska receiving list.

To me that isn't a guy who is a bust. I'll go with didn't live up to or dominate like his 5* rating would have suggested he might or could have, but those numbers tell me he wasn't a bust.

[huskon4ever!]

I see the Marlon Lucky example brought up sometimes. Here is my

Marlon Lucky should have redshirted, but his hype would not allow it. He played behind NFL players Cory Ross and then Brandon Jackson. When his time came as a junior, he had a great season. As a senior he shared time with another NFL player in Roy Helu. IMPO he was a good college player. He ranks 17th in rushing and 4th in both all-purpose yards and receptions. I feel like most fans think he was a "bust" because he wasnt the program-changer he was expected to be. He was a solid college RB. A "bust"? Not IMPO. A disappointment? Absolutely. He was a concensus top 3-5 RB in the country. You could have called him the best and not been looked at funny. He was far more hyped than Aaron Green was recently.

Now see, I could have just read what N2FL said and agreed with him rather than spend a few minutes looking at stats, but oh well, it was fun to look at names and reminisce about what they did with my dad.

Either way, I concur N2FL.

[Greatest Fan of All]

If you are truly objective, it is really pretty hard to find any position where Bo has outperformed BC on the recruiting trail, to this point. What is particularly frustrating is Bo's inability to get some of his most highly touted recruits on the field. (Is Lucky anywhere near as big a "bust" as Green? LOL, of course not)

PS--I am refering only to guys that actually play...not those that ride the pine or leave the team.

[O'Husker]

If you are truly objective, it is really pretty hard to find any position where Bo has outperformed BC on the recruiting trail, to this point. What is particularly frustrating is Bo's inability to get some of his most highly touted recruits on the field. (Is Lucky anywhere near as big a "bust" as Green?)

PS--I am refering only to guys that actually play...not those that ride the pine or leave the team.

What happened?? You go all in on ace-jack off suit and pocket 8s beat you... You are a much better contributer on this board when you're in Vegas. Go give the cash tables a go......

[Greatest Fan of All]

What happened?? You go all in on ace-jack off suit and pocket 8s beat you... You are a much better contributer on this board when you're in Vegas. Go give the cash tables a go......

No bad beats...had a great time and made a little cash too. Wish I could have stayed longer, but heading back in a week or so. What happened with you? Did you forget how to argue/discuss or is my point that clear even to you?

[HuskerGene]

What happened?? You go all in on ace-jack off suit and pocket 8s beat you... You are a much better contributer on this board when you're in Vegas. Go give the cash tables a go......

[FCHusker]

If you are truly objective, it is really pretty hard to find any position where Bo has outperformed BC on the recruiting trail, to this point. What is particularly frustrating is Bo's inability to get some of his most highly touted recruits on the field. (Is Lucky anywhere near as big a "bust" as Green? LOL, of course not)

PS--I am refering only to guys that actually play...not those that ride the pine or leave the team.

Speaking of performance homeslice, refresh me how many times a Bo led and recruited team has ever gave up 70+ points??? I'm pretty sure thats outperforming. Oh to be blind.

[Greatest Fan of All]

Speaking of performance homeslice, refresh me how many times a Bo led and recruited team has ever gave up 70+ points??? I'm pretty sure thats outperforming. Oh to be blind.

I thought my post was pretty clear. What part of "on the recruiting trail" did you mis-understand?

[O'Husker]

No bad beats...had a great time and made a little cash too. Wish I could have stayed longer, but heading back in a week or so. What happened with you? Did you forget how to argue/discuss or is my point that clear even to you?

Hard to have a discussion with a tape recorder saying the same thing...saying the same thing...saying the same thing over and over...and over...and over.... oh, and the point on the top of your head is very clear! You obviously are having trouble with understanding the basic nuances of such a discussion. So very sad, but I am so happy you're card playing is as magnificent as you proclaim... I would have thought nothing less of you.

[Greatest Fan of All]

Hard to have a discussion with a tape recorder saying the same thing...saying the same thing...saying the same thing over and over...and over...and over.... oh, and the point on the top of your head is very clear! You obviously are having trouble with understanding the basic nuances of such a discussion. So very sad, but I am so happy you're card playing is as magnificent as you proclaim... I would have thought nothing less of you.

I guess that means you "give."

[O'Husker]

I guess that means you "give."

Yes I do! I gave money to the Rist Canyon Volunteer Fire Department - who have been amazing in battling the High Park fire here in northern colorado. I give to United Way, and I just wrote a check to a newly formed support group in omaha; The Callahanaholics Anonymous fund!

[denisonred]

I was waiting for the Lucky defender and luckily someone took the bait. Getting beat out your senior year by a younger player as a 5 star is every bit a bust....unless you expect 5 stars to be back ups???

And before the rebuttle comes out I would assume a "bust" is someone that does not meet expectations on the field? Let me know if Lucky met your expectations you had for him when he signed. And also before you tell me that Lucky started a majority of the games so he wasn't a back up, that kind of argument will get you laughed out of Memorial Stadium. Lucky towards the end of the year was getting courtesy receptions and carries as he was being out-played by Castille and Helu Jr.

Maybe you forgot that Lucky happened to have a nagging injury his senior year which affected his play. How soon we forget.

[The Impaler]

I thought my post was pretty clear. What part of "on the recruiting trail" did you mis-understand?

While I am not willing to say Bo has "out-performed" Callahan on the recruiting trail I am not gonna say he hasn't either. I don't think he did the first couple of years but will wait and decide on the last couple. What I will say though, as others have stated, is that Callahan's classes took a lot of Juco's which probably wasn't good for the program. Also, he didn't really seem to assemble peices that fit together.

At any rate, a Coach is much more than "just" recruiting and "just" coaching. He is a father figure, disciplinarian, coach, recruiter, & fundraiser. I would say Bo holds his own with Cally on a lot of these and far exceeds him as a coach. Even if I agreed with you that Cally far exceeds Bo as a recruiter I would still much rather have Bo as the product on the field and competitiveness of the teams under Bo have FAR exceeded anything Cally did.

[ShortSideOption]

Maybe you forgot that Lucky happened to have a nagging injury his senior year which affected his play. How soon we forget.

LOL - ya, and Jay Moore sat out that one year because of a "hamstring injury"

[FCHusker]

Yes I do! I gave money to the Rist Canyon Volunteer Fire Department - who have been amazing in battling the High Park fire here in northern colorado. I give to United Way, and I just wrote a check to a newly formed support group in omaha; The Callahanaholics Anonymous fund!

[Pop Corn]

While I am not willing to say Bo has "out-performed" Callahan on the recruiting trail I am not gonna say he hasn't either. I don't think he did the first couple of years but will wait and decide on the last couple. What I will say though, as others have stated, is that Callahan's classes took a lot of Juco's which probably wasn't good for the program. Also, he didn't really seem to assemble peices that fit together.

At any rate, a Coach is much more than "just" recruiting and "just" coaching. He is a father figure, disciplinarian, coach, recruiter, & fundraiser. I would say Bo holds his own with Cally on a lot of these and far exceeds him as a coach. Even if I agreed with you that Cally far exceeds Bo as a recruiter I would still much rather have Bo as the product on the field and competitiveness of the teams under Bo have FAR exceeded anything Cally did.

Now that is "clear"! And it is something that I thing is fair and consistent with the facts we have to work with.

[Pop Corn]

Yes I do! I gave money to the Rist Canyon Volunteer Fire Department - who have been amazing in battling the High Park fire here in northern colorado. I give to United Way, and I just wrote a check to a newly formed support group in omaha; The Callahanaholics Anonymous fund!

BRAVO!!!!

[huskon4ever!]

If you are truly objective, it is really pretty hard to find any position where Bo has outperformed BC on the recruiting trail, to this point. What is particularly frustrating is Bo's inability to get some of his most highly touted recruits on the field. (Is Lucky anywhere near as big a "bust" as Green? LOL, of course not)

PS--I am refering only to guys that actually play...not those that ride the pine or leave the team.

Easiest place to see where Bo has outperformed Cally was in recruiting for roster management. Look for FLAS' post re: this. I'll put it in baseball terms - Cally is like Adam Dunn or Mark Reynolds (all or nothing basically) - he certainly hit some homeruns that prevented us from completely falling into oblivion (Suh, BJax, Helu), a few hits (Nunn, Lucky), struckout more than you would hope with others (Witt, H Beck , Cruz Barrett, Chris Brooks, David Harvey, Roarks, Picous) and got really lucky with a few others (Ganz, Swift, Petersen, Slauson). Look at his 2006 recruiting class (maybe one of the worst) as he got a few guys who would contribute throughout their careers (P Allen, M Holt, McNeil, Thenarse, and K Williams) but otherwise, what was there? 8 JCs? Nicks, Andre Jones and Mo Purify were good, but Frantz Hardy, Victory Haines, Brandon Johnson, Picou, and Kenny Wilson? That class was devastating to the overall health of the roster and I would argue we're still trying to recover from it. How he followed that up with the 2007 class, I'll never know.

Bo on the other hand is more like the current version of Derek Jeter or Michael Young - solid, not always trying to crush it out of the park, gives 100%. The way he's rebuilt the depth chart is pretty good, although he has missed on some bigger stars. His first class (current seniors) Baker (easy get, yes), Fonz, and Cam were/are the highlights. Compton, Whaley, PJ, Osborne twins, Cotton and Reed could all finish their careers off well. A few didn't live up to expectations like Sean Fisher, Collins Okafor, Spano, and Josh Williams (either injury, stupid choices or couldn't crack the depth chart). He also got lucky with Choi and Maher. Point is I don't see Bo trying to build his classes around homeruns. He gets a bunch of guys he likes and who are good players, then he takes some chances on guys who will be tough gets but will be icing on the cake too. Last year with Peat was a great example. Would it have been awesome to get AP? Of course. But was our class very good without him? Absolutely. Hopefully for Bo and Nebraska football we'll see him continue to get the solid players but also win a commit for a player like AP as well.