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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    Were the Dems to concoct an election-year partisan witchhunt such as this, the right/Pubs would scream to high heaven about the waste of time, resources, and money this embarrassing farce is consuming. But hey keep it up Pubs because this and the other crapola you are pulling in Congress and in state legislatures is going to hand Obama the WH on a silver platter and perhaps control of both houses.
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    http://thehill.com/polls/234465-vote...d-furious-docs


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChitownHusker View Post






    http://thehill.com/polls/234465-vote...d-furious-docs


    Do you ever tire of being not just wrong, but demonstrably so?
    Do you ever tire of dodging the question(s) I ask or points I make?? I stand by what I said.."Were the Dems to concoct an election-year partisan witchhunt such as this, the right/Pubs would scream to high heaven about the waste of time, resources, and money this embarrassing farce is consuming." You can throw all the FoxNews polls around you want but what I have said is the truth and you know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    Do you ever tire of dodging the question(s) I ask or points I make?? I stand by what I said.."Were the Dems to concoct an election-year partisan witchhunt such as this, the right/Pubs would scream to high heaven about the waste of time, resources, and money this embarrassing farce is consuming." You can throw all the FoxNews polls around you want but what I have said is the truth and you know it.
    18 months of investigation and Holder not giving up the documents the congress committee asked for...this could have been over months and months ago. You can't peg this as an election year which hunt...and a lot of demos voted for contempt so it isn't partisan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    Do you ever tire of dodging the question(s) I ask or points I make?? I stand by what I said.."Were the Dems to concoct an election-year partisan witchhunt such as this, the right/Pubs would scream to high heaven about the waste of time, resources, and money this embarrassing farce is consuming." You can throw all the FoxNews polls around you want but what I have said is the truth and you know it.


    You didn't ask a question, you made a statement, which was shown to be demonstrably wrong. Could you provide a simialr circumstance where Dems concocted such witchhunt screams to high heaven happened?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLA4NEB View Post
    The F&F has been under congressional investigation for over 18 months. Hardly an election year witch hunt. As for partisan, seems a lot of democrat house members will be voting agains Holder this afternoon.
    Not a "witch hunt?" You obviously have not been paying attention...wait...even if you had been paying attention you will spin it as you do in this post. Did some Dems buckle to NRA pressure? Sure and their actions are just as despicable as those of the Pubs who hatched this nation-embarassing scheme in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuZkurZ View Post
    You didn't ask a question, you made a statement, which was shown to be demonstrably wrong. Could you provide a simialr circumstance where Dems concocted such witchhunt screams to high heaven happened?
    No computer face punch image?? I never tire of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    Do you ever tire of dodging the question(s) I ask or points I make?? I stand by what I said.."Were the Dems to concoct an election-year partisan witchhunt such as this, the right/Pubs would scream to high heaven about the waste of time, resources, and money this embarrassing farce is consuming." You can throw all the FoxNews polls around you want but what I have said is the truth and you know it.
    I actually provided you with two separate polls, both of which showed that the country was on balance siding with the Republicans rather than the Democrats on this issue. Indeed the second poll showed that 61% of independents believed that Obama had inappropriately invoked executive privilege to withhold relevant documents from Congress. The polls I cited directly rebutted your statement that this dispute was going to be a political liability for Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    No computer face punch image?? I never tire of that.
    Don't get greedy, I already gave you one today. I thought you might be thinking of a specific instance where what you said happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    Not a "witch hunt?" You obviously have not been paying attention...wait...even if you had been paying attention you will spin it as you do in this post. Did some Dems buckle to NRA pressure? Sure and their actions are just as despicable as those of the Pubs who hatched this nation-embarassing scheme in the first place.
    18 months...a year is 12 months...we are six month into an election year.

    Holder could have taken care of this last year by giving the documents they asked for in a none redacted form (most pages were fully redacted). Congress has oversight and Holder is stonewalling congress.

    Deal with the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLA4NEB View Post
    18 months...a year is 12 months...we are six month into an election year.

    Holder could have taken care of this last year by giving the documents they asked for in a none redacted form (most pages were fully redacted). Congress has oversight and Holder is stonewalling congress.

    Deal with the facts.
    The facts you want to dodge are that Holder appeared 9 times and provided 7600 pages of documents. Holder has NOT been stonewalling anyone. Issa and Boehner both admitted there is NO, NONE, NADA evidence in any shape or form against Holder or Obama to support this nation-embarrassing contempt charge. The facts are that this is a thinly-veiled partisan election year witch hunt intended to defame Holder directly and damage Obama indirectly. Those are the facts. Deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChitownHusker View Post
    I actually provided you with two separate polls, both of which showed that the country was on balance siding with the Republicans rather than the Democrats on this issue. Indeed the second poll showed that 61% of independents believed that Obama had inappropriately invoked executive privilege to withhold relevant documents from Congress. The polls I cited directly rebutted your statement that this dispute was going to be a political liability for Republicans.
    Two polls showing that "the country 'on the balance' siding with Republicans"? OK Forgive me if I say psshhhaaawww. Had I posted those polls, you would be screeching to high heaven now about the source rather than the substance of the polls. I expressed an opinion about how righters would have reacted had the contempt nonsense been reversed and your "polls" are not changing my OPINION.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    Two polls showing that "the country 'on the balance' siding with Republicans"? OK Forgive me if I say psshhhaaawww. Had I posted those polls, you would be screeching to high heaven now about the source rather than the substance of the polls. I expressed an opinion about how righters would have reacted had the contempt nonsense been reversed and your "polls" are not changing my OPINION.
    You were certainly not the audience that I was expecting to persuade. I was simply rebutting your argument. You are more than welcome to come up with any polls supporting your position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    Two polls showing that "the country 'on the balance' siding with Republicans"? OK Forgive me if I say psshhhaaawww. Had I posted those polls, you would be screeching to high heaven now about the source rather than the substance of the polls. I expressed an opinion about how righters would have reacted had the contempt nonsense been reversed and your "polls" are not changing my OPINION.
    and, I just asked what example are you drawing from that helped form your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warhorse View Post
    The facts you want to dodge are that Holder appeared 9 times and provided 7600 pages of documents. Holder has NOT been stonewalling anyone. Issa and Boehner both admitted there is NO, NONE, NADA evidence in any shape or form against Holder or Obama to support this nation-embarrassing contempt charge. The facts are that this is a thinly-veiled partisan election year witch hunt intended to defame Holder directly and damage Obama indirectly. Those are the facts. Deal with it.
    Yes he did give a lot of heavly redacted documents and a lot of testimony that you would describe as him ducking, dodging, and deflecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLA4NEB View Post
    Yes he did give a lot of heavly redacted documents and a lot of testimony that you would describe as him ducking, dodging, and deflecting.
    No that would be Chairman Issa's description, not mine.
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    Anyone who takes anything Issa says at face value should take a close look at his personal history and business record. Dude is shady.
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