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    Quote Originally Posted by ShuckIt View Post
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    So you are fine with mandatory life sentence for a 16 year old driver who was going ten over and lost control of the car and killed two people in the car?
    Not in an accident situation, if you could prove that the 16yr old purposely plowed in the car and meant to cause harm then yes I would be okay with life sentences.
    Then the SCOTUS got it right then.

    The kid was speeding around hair pin turns to show off for the 16 and 17 year old girls in the back seat. They are the dead ones.

    Lucky for me I was not on duty and did not have to cut them out of the car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskermedic View Post
    Then the SCOTUS got it right then.

    The kid was speeding around hair pin turns to show off for the 16 and 17 year old girls in the back seat. They are the dead ones.

    Lucky for me I was not on duty and did not have to cut them out of the car.
    Yeah my original thoughts on the ruling were incorrect as I don't believe mandatory life sentences should be the only option. I was originally thinking that it was saying that a life sentence was no longer option no matter what, that I read incorrectly, I think we are on the same page as far as the ruling. I think we just have differing opinions possibly on what offenses would be eligible for a life sentence which is always just going to be an individual opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShuckIt View Post
    Yeah my original thoughts on the ruling were incorrect as I don't believe mandatory life sentences should be the only option. I was originally thinking that it was saying that a life sentence was no longer option no matter what, that I read incorrectly, I think we are on the same page as far as the ruling. I think we just have differing opinions possibly on what offenses would be eligible for a life sentence which is always just going to be an individual opinion.
    I think we are on the same page on what offenses are. I don't think we should limit a judge at all in what they can do except death. Other then that if the judge feels the crime deserve life the judge can hand it down. If the defendant feels it is too much they can appeal. Why do I think that?

    Jonesboro AK, the kids shot and killed some kids and an adult. The mandatory sentence prevented the kids from being in jail after 21 years of age. To me that is a negative to mandatory sentencing. If you look at Mitchell, after he got out he committed other crimes and is back in jail.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitchel..._Andrew_Golden

    If I was the judge and could have done what ever I wanted with that case both of them would have received life with the possibility of prole.

    I don't see why we put hand cuffs on judges on what they can or can not do with sentencing.


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    Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.” - Gamalie the Pharisee - Addressing the Sanhedrin regarding the new group called Christians
    "I support collecting more in taxes from people with high incomes who choose to actually pay taxes at lower tax rates than use lawyers and accountants to avoid taxes at higher tax rates," he wrote. "Some tax revenues at low tax rates is a heckuva lot better than no tax revenues at high tax rates." - Art Laffer (on 999 plan)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskermedic View Post
    I don't see why we put hand cuffs on judges on what they can or can not do with sentencing.
    Because some judges are idiots. IIRC, there was a rash of new mandatory sentence laws put in place a few years ago because hard-core criminals were getting very light sentences and committing murder. Had proper sentencing taken place, they'd never have been out on the street and someone would have lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmaHusker View Post
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    I don't see why we put hand cuffs on judges on what they can or can not do with sentencing.
    Because some judges are idiots. IIRC, there was a rash of new mandatory sentence laws put in place a few years ago because hard-core criminals were getting very light sentences and committing murder. Had proper sentencing taken place, they'd never have been out on the street and someone would have lived.
    That is a great example of over legislating and not letting the system take care of the problem. Get rid of the judge if they do that.

    What about the Jonesboro case? Same kind of example just the other direction? Stupid legislating?


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    Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men. Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered. Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.” - Gamalie the Pharisee - Addressing the Sanhedrin regarding the new group called Christians
    "I support collecting more in taxes from people with high incomes who choose to actually pay taxes at lower tax rates than use lawyers and accountants to avoid taxes at higher tax rates," he wrote. "Some tax revenues at low tax rates is a heckuva lot better than no tax revenues at high tax rates." - Art Laffer (on 999 plan)








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