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    Is Nebraska's QB Situation Hurting Recruiting?

    Latest bit discusses a few things:


    -Recruits see a lot of youth on our roster
    -Lack of QB development
    -Martinez has a potential four year starter


    For the sake of this board, let's not discuss the Martinez aspect. I'm not interested in rehashing that here. I really want to focus on the QB coach aspect.


    What do you guys think about Nebraska's lack of a full time QB coach? I hate it, personally. And I genuinely think the lack of development that our quarterbacks have seen is hurting us in the long run. That's why this is here and not on the Recruiting Board -- I think the lack of a full time quarterback coach really stifles our offense. Since Bo has arrived, we've had two OC/QB coaches. And how much "development" have we seen from our quarterbacks in that time?

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    http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-foo...l-coaches.html

    http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-f...t.html#coaches

    Above are Alabama and USC who have an offensive coordinator that doubles as a position coach....

    http://www.lsusports.net/SportSelect...64&SPSID=28715
    LSU has strictly an offensive coordinator but I believe he doubles as their Offensive Line coach

    Just more info

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    That is a very valid point. At some level, you have to compromise because the NCAA doesn't give you enough headcount to have a position coach for every single job (Longsnappers, for example). But why in the world would you not have a position coach for arguably the most important role on the team?

    I realize that Pelini is a defensive specialist, and it's entirely possibly to win games with a lights-out defense and serviceable offense. But it certainly has an impact.
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    I would argue that having the offensive coordinator being the QB coach is the very best scenario to have.

    I do agree with the fact that the backup needs to get more meaningful reps in games.

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    Implementing a new offense during the off season probably had a factor on TM's development as well. So much of TB's time was teaching all the coaching staff the offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BornToBeRed View Post
    Latest bit discusses a few things:


    -Recruits see a lot of youth on our roster
    -Lack of QB development
    -Martinez has a potential four year starter


    For the sake of this board, let's not discuss the Martinez aspect. I'm not interested in rehashing that here. I really want to focus on the QB coach aspect.


    What do you guys think about Nebraska's lack of a full time QB coach? I hate it, personally. And I genuinely think the lack of development that our quarterbacks have seen is hurting us in the long run. That's why this is here and not on the Recruiting Board -- I think the lack of a full time quarterback coach really stifles our offense. Since Bo has arrived, we've had two OC/QB coaches. And how much "development" have we seen from our quarterbacks in that time?

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    Maybe coaching turnover is part of the issue. Last year we had 4 new assistants and this year 2 new assistants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inflation View Post
    Maybe coaching turnover is part of the issue. Last year we had 4 new assistants and this year 2 new assistants.
    I agree with this statement, i also think we have gotten some upgrades as wel. But, i hope the turnover is done for awhile, or this team will never be great
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    Is Nebraska's QB Situation Hurting Recruiting?

    I certainly think that it may (eventually). The lack of development in a QB is one factor, but so is the lack of playing time for a backup, or even having a serviceable backup. Last year, we saw the effect that a backup can have on game positively (for Northwestern, their backup helped them to win the game) and negatively (for Ohio State, their backup helped us to win the game).

    I want to see the QB development year to year, but I also want to see the time put into developing backups so that they are consistently pushing the starter for playing time, and when they do get in, we are not at great risk for blowing a lead, but rather, they are prepared to lead us to victory.
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    I would think that our QB situation would HELP in recruiting. TM has 2 years left. If someone commits this year, signs for 2013, redshirts....they play in 2014. FOr a lot of senior QB's, NU's situation is exactly what they are looking for. Add to the fact that we seem capable of recruiting WR's that stand a chance of being thrown to with the new offensive style and it bodes well for us at the QB spot in the near future.

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    I am looking at this from the otherside of the fence here. I think the situation is a good one to have. Tmart 2 years to go, Carnes 3 yrs, and TA 5 yrs. Plus the walk ons. I think to answer your question is yes, but I think next year will be different since Tmart will be a Senior.


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    I believe the biggest problem was recruits not knowing what offense would be ran. The staff went from playbook to playbook season to season. Three or four coordinators in a decade didn't help out either. Having finally settled on a scheme should dial in the right fit from here on.

    Bigtime programs all seem to have recruits sign and then move on because of either log jams and knowing they are going to get the leftovers. Nebraska did well when they locked onto one or two quality names and let the walkons develop and fill the gaps. We had some very good walkons and local kids that became heros. Some in just one game, others for a season. The more bodies a program brings into the mix the more players you will see looking for greener pastures.

    Now that we have some continuity in the playbook and the staff, the more trust the program can generate with the recruits and parents. Having too many kids is better than not having enough. The good ones know they will rise to the top and stick around. The smart ones are not afraid to wait their turns. The walkons have that love for the game and the program, and will stand firm until called on. At least that was the way things worked before the many transitions.

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    Nebraska is still perceived to be a running team. NU and TMart's inability to date to be successful throwing hurts QBs who want a chance to play in the NFL. Having a run-first QB doesn't help the perception.

    I am personally frustrated that our backup QBs do not get meaningful playing time. I still advocate that our backup should play at least one series during a meaningful time of the game. The entire playbook needs to be open to him to test his overall effectiveness. Missouri did it with Chase Daniel and Brad Smith and booger-boy. It seemed to prove to be effective for them!

    Our depth is reasonable. If TM is hurt for any extended period we're in trouble (as are most college teams).

    No one can say if BC or TA are possible successor's to TM simply because no one has seen them in action but we all suspect that we could/should attract more talent.

    I am hopeful that the offense can transition to a Wisconsin style offense where you can plug in a serviceable Joe Ganz-esque type player and still have success. I would love it if TM had less home-run type plays if at the same time he had less game management issues (turnovers, penalties, delay of games ...). Alabama has won a couple of national championships with solid but unspectacular players at the QB slot.
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    This is sort of off the main point here (qb development), but the team not being relevant for that past decade hurts recruiting too. The young recruits don't know anything of the Husker glory years and tradition. They don't know Tommie Frazier or even Eric Crouch or any NU QB greats. For me, that is a as big a factor as what offense if being run or who the OC is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BornToBeRed View Post
    Latest bit discusses a few things:


    -Recruits see a lot of youth on our roster
    -Lack of QB development
    -Martinez has a potential four year starter


    For the sake of this board, let's not discuss the Martinez aspect. I'm not interested in rehashing that here. I really want to focus on the QB coach aspect.


    What do you guys think about Nebraska's lack of a full time QB coach? I hate it, personally. And I genuinely think the lack of development that our quarterbacks have seen is hurting us in the long run. That's why this is here and not on the Recruiting Board -- I think the lack of a full time quarterback coach really stifles our offense. Since Bo has arrived, we've had two OC/QB coaches. And how much "development" have we seen from our quarterbacks in that time?

    Link To Article

    Which coaching staff position are you going to cut to have a 'full time QB coach'? RB's? OL? WR's? Or do you think we can get by with a dual-role DC and only two defensive position coaches?

    You cannot justify a full-time assistant for 1/22 on the field and 5 players total on the roster.
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