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    Ten games that could change the BCS: Wisconsin at Nebraska

    The Orlando Sentinal has been doing a couple of series like this the past month or so.....


    The Huskers are 27-9 over the past five seasons at Memorial Stadium while Wisconsin has had its struggles on the road with an 14-11 record over the same span of time. The loser of this one will struggle to find their way back into the BCS conversation.

    Whole thing here:

    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/spo...hange-bcs.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Reign View Post
    The Orlando Sentinal has been doing a couple of series like this the past month or so.....

    The Huskers are 27-9 over the past five seasons at Memorial Stadium while Wisconsin has had its struggles on the road with an 14-11 record over the same span of time. The loser of this one will struggle to find their way back into the BCS conversation.

    Whole thing here:

    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/spo...hange-bcs.html
    If you take out our 13 "gimme's" things seem a whole lot more even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatest Fan of All View Post
    If you take out our 13 "gimme's" things seem a whole lot more even.
    "Gimme's"? Like Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Northern Iowa, Indiana and Minnesota are for Wisconsin? Or are you just bashing Nebraska's schedule?
    Date Opponent / Event Location Time / Result
    09/01/12 vs. Northern Iowa Camp Randall Stadium 2:30 p.m. CT
    09/08/12 at Oregon State Corvallis, Ore. TBA
    09/15/12 vs. Utah State Camp Randall Stadium 7:00 p.m. CT
    09/22/12 vs. UTEP Camp Randall Stadium TBA
    09/29/12 at Nebraska * Lincoln, Neb. 7:00 p.m. CT
    10/06/12 vs. Illinois * Camp Randall Stadium 2:30 p.m. CT
    10/13/12 at Purdue * West Lafayette, Ind. 11:00 a.m. CT
    10/20/12 vs. Minnesota * Camp Randall Stadium TBA
    10/27/12 vs. Michigan State * Camp Randall Stadium 2:30 p.m. CT
    11/10/12 at Indiana * Bloomington, Ind. TBA
    11/17/12 vs. Ohio State * Camp Randall Stadium TBA
    11/24/12 at Penn State * University Park, Pa. TBA
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    What is interesting is NU is 16-14 in road games its last 5 years (including BC's debacle in '07).

    That record for those 30 games includes 5 games that were bowl games and/or B12 Title games ... officially road games where we were 2-3.
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    What is also interesting is that Wisconsin has not lost a non-conference game - of any kind since 2003 (UNLV) - and a non-conference road game since 2001 (Fresno State).

    Its not because they play teams like Virginia Tech or UCLA or USC. Its because traditionally their toughest non-conference games in the last decade have been UNLV or Fresno State or Oregon State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Reign View Post
    The Orlando Sentinal has been doing a couple of series like this the past month or so.....





    Whole thing here:

    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/spo...hange-bcs.html
    It of course is a big game.

    For Wisconsin it is really their only loseable game in their first 8 games of the season.

    They finish their season with Michigan State, Ohio State and Penn State in 3 of their last 4 games. Going into that stretch being 8-0 would mean ranked in the top 5 and contending for a NC!

    If they beat NU they likely find themselves in the B10 Championship game because of Ohio State's ban regardless of how they do in that 3-game stretch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4evrHusker View Post
    "Gimme's"? Like Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Northern Iowa, Indiana and Minnesota are for Wisconsin? Or are you just bashing Nebraska's schedule?
    Date Opponent / Event Location Time / Result
    09/01/12 vs. Northern Iowa Camp Randall Stadium 2:30 p.m. CT
    09/08/12 at Oregon State Corvallis, Ore. TBA
    09/15/12 vs. Utah State Camp Randall Stadium 7:00 p.m. CT
    09/22/12 vs. UTEP Camp Randall Stadium TBA
    09/29/12 at Nebraska * Lincoln, Neb. 7:00 p.m. CT
    10/06/12 vs. Illinois * Camp Randall Stadium 2:30 p.m. CT
    10/13/12 at Purdue * West Lafayette, Ind. 11:00 a.m. CT
    10/20/12 vs. Minnesota * Camp Randall Stadium TBA
    10/27/12 vs. Michigan State * Camp Randall Stadium 2:30 p.m. CT
    11/10/12 at Indiana * Bloomington, Ind. TBA
    11/17/12 vs. Ohio State * Camp Randall Stadium TBA
    11/24/12 at Penn State * University Park, Pa. TBA
    The Orlando artice was comparing five years' of records. I presume GFOA is comparing Wisconsin's road record over five years v. NU's home record over five years, reduced by NU's nonconference home games against smaller schools that could be considered gimmies. He is not comparing Wisconsin's 2012 schedule to anything, nor was the article.

    GFOA's point is a legitimate one to consider, in light of the fact that Wisconsin, like most large schools, does not often, if at all, play smaller schools on the road. So GFOA is basically comparing Wisky's five year road record against BCS teams to NU's five year home record against BCS teams. It's a fair comparison.
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    The loser of this one will struggle to find their way back into the BCS conversation.
    The winner of this one will struggle to find their way into the BCS conversation

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    Quote Originally Posted by utsker View Post
    The winner of this one will struggle to find their way into the BCS conversation
    I may agree with that.... Michigan, Ohio St, Michigan St are other games we still could lose and throw in the one game we should win but struggle with and there are some tough games on our schedule this year....but I would agree that losing it will definetely make it a massive uphill climb

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    Why is Wisconsin still getting so much respect?

    They lost their brilliant transfer QB, half of their all-conference line, and almost the entire coaching staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker Mort View Post
    Why is Wisconsin still getting so much respect?

    They lost their brilliant transfer QB, half of their all-conference line, and almost the entire coaching staff.
    The same could be said about NU whom lost 3 preseason all americans, a DC (though the "real" DC is still here) and we are fielding a defense with NO ONE being considered for a preason all anything. That combined with a offense that has been up and down the past 3 seasons.

    I think Wisconsin is just as deserving of their love even with what they loose as much as Nebraska with who they kept, honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerRedDread View Post
    The same could be said about NU whom lost 3 preseason all americans, a DC (though the "real" DC is still here) and we are fielding a defense with NO ONE being considered for a preason all anything. That combined with a offense that has been up and down the past 3 seasons.

    I think Wisconsin is just as deserving of their love even with what they loose as much as Nebraska with who they kept, honestly.
    I didn't claim Nebraska was deserving of any preseason love.

    Slice it any way you want, losing your starting QB is more damaging than any single defensive starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker Mort View Post
    Why is Wisconsin still getting so much respect?

    They lost their brilliant transfer QB, half of their all-conference line, and almost the entire coaching staff.
    Because look at their schedule. Not counting the game in Lincoln .. their first seven games at very winnable. If UW beats NU in Lincoln they will be 8-0 guarenteed!

    Their last four games are - Ohio State, Michigan State, Indiana and Penn State. the two toughest (OSU and MSU) are in Madison, an extremely tough place to play. And both are revenge games where UW lost on the last play of the game.

    Plus the loss of QB is mitigated because most people believe that the offense is simply plug and play, run oriented (with the best RB in conference/nation) as well as an O-line that is always solid.
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    Good point; obviously, NU is the only team in the country that schedules "gimmes".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The Orlando artice was comparing five years' of records. I presume GFOA is comparing Wisconsin's road record over five years v. NU's home record over five years, reduced by NU's nonconference home games against smaller schools that could be considered gimmies. He is not comparing Wisconsin's 2012 schedule to anything, nor was the article.

    GFOA's point is a legitimate one to consider, in light of the fact that Wisconsin, like most large schools, does not often, if at all, play smaller schools on the road. So GFOA is basically comparing Wisky's five year road record against BCS teams to NU's five year home record against BCS teams. It's a fair comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhoie View Post
    Good point; obviously, NU is the only team in the country that schedules "gimmes".
    Not many schedule gimme's on the road. If they must, it's rarely one-for-one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker Mort View Post
    Why is Wisconsin still getting so much respect?

    They lost their brilliant transfer QB, half of their all-conference line, and almost the entire coaching staff.
    They have earned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4evrHusker View Post
    "Gimme's"? Like Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Northern Iowa, Indiana and Minnesota are for Wisconsin? Or are you just bashing Nebraska's schedule?
    Date Opponent / Event Location Time / Result
    09/01/12 vs. Northern Iowa Camp Randall Stadium 2:30 p.m. CT
    09/08/12 at Oregon State Corvallis, Ore. TBA
    09/15/12 vs. Utah State Camp Randall Stadium 7:00 p.m. CT
    09/22/12 vs. UTEP Camp Randall Stadium TBA
    09/29/12 at Nebraska * Lincoln, Neb. 7:00 p.m. CT
    10/06/12 vs. Illinois * Camp Randall Stadium 2:30 p.m. CT
    10/13/12 at Purdue * West Lafayette, Ind. 11:00 a.m. CT
    10/20/12 vs. Minnesota * Camp Randall Stadium TBA
    10/27/12 vs. Michigan State * Camp Randall Stadium 2:30 p.m. CT
    11/10/12 at Indiana * Bloomington, Ind. TBA
    11/17/12 vs. Ohio State * Camp Randall Stadium TBA
    11/24/12 at Penn State * University Park, Pa. TBA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    GFOA's point is a legitimate one to consider, in light of the fact that Wisconsin, like most large schools, does not often, if at all, play smaller schools on the road. So GFOA is basically comparing Wisky's five year road record against BCS teams to NU's five year home record against BCS teams. It's a fair comparison.
    Disagree when comparing to Wisconsin. The Badgers historically schedule extremely light non-conference games. IF they schedule a BCS conference opponent it is someone like Oregon State.

    At least NU has one major BCS level opponeny such as Washington, UCLA, Tennessee, Virginia Tech. Additionally NU has also proven they will travel to places like Wake Forest and Southern Mississippi.

    The last time UW lost a non-con game was 2003 and a non-con road game in 2001.

    NU's non-conference is usually solid. Make fun of Lou-Lafayette ... but not all schedules are the same!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wcbsas View Post
    Disagree when comparing to Wisconsin. The Badgers historically schedule extremely light non-conference games. IF they schedule a BCS conference opponent it is someone like Oregon State.

    At least NU has one major BCS level opponeny such as Washington, UCLA, Tennessee, Virginia Tech. Additionally NU has also proven they will travel to places like Wake Forest and Southern Mississippi.

    The last time UW lost a non-con game was 2003 and a non-con road game in 2001.

    NU's non-conference is usually solid. Make fun of Lou-Lafayette ... but not all schedules are the same!
    Nebraska's 13 Home Game "Gimme's" over the last 5 years:

    2007:
    Nevada
    Ball State

    2008:
    Western Michigan
    San Jose State
    New Mexico State

    2009:
    Florida Atlantic
    Arkansas State
    Louisiana Lafayette

    2010:
    Western Kentucky
    Idaho
    South Dakota State

    2011:
    Chatanooga
    Fresno State

    Now, tell me again the ones you disagree with? Who are all the big time BCS level opportunities that I was mistakenly counting in?

    As for Wisconsin, RR was talking about their 14-11 "ROAD RECORD" no one was talking about their non-conference schedule, except you.

    Re-read post #1 and my response. NU 27W-9L at home, less 13 gimme's = 14 Wins and 9 losses at home. Very comparable to Wisconsin's road record of 14 wins and 11 losses. Get it?


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