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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakewood Husker View Post
    Just like others who were slow to the Gov Walker impending victory, guys like Silver will come over late and find out that this election cycle is setting up for a major shift in the electorate. Short of some cataclysmic issue regarding Romney he will be elected President. I have previously said why the election sets up for Romney , Wisconsin and Ohio have gone republican statewide and this holds huge advantages for the Republicans. Florida is gone for the Democrats as is NC. Virginia will flip again. Colorado and Nevada both have a Mormon population that will get out the vote and with the Union's in disaray the Nevada vote with the horrible economy will flip again. I believe Oregon is in play. The youth vote will not even come close to what they did in '08.

    In short with all the usual Republican states Romney will win, Colorado,Nevada,Wisconsin,Ohio,Virginia and depending on VP, PA or New Mexico. I wouldn't be surprised to see him even win in Oregon.

    While conventional wisdom always like's to say it'll be close, or they'll win in 7 or some sort cliche answer, i believe this will not be close.
    Have another tall glass, Lakewood. You don't seem to understand politics in either Wisconsin or Ohio very well. Your sense that they have "gone Republican statewide" is accurate as of November, 2010, but you must not be watching the news lately. Walker and Kasich are among the least popular Governors in the entire country and their agendas have succeeded in nothing so grand as rallying the liberal and moderate base in either state and reminding union workers, many of which had switched tickets, why they used to vote for Democrats. Your claiming that there is a "huge advantage" is absurd on the heels of a statewide recall election and a landslide voter referendum that denounced the tea party agenda here. Losing Florida (a state Obama won by 2.5%) and North Carolina (.4%) wouldn't be shockers either. You haven't shown any evidence that Virginia (6.3%) or Oregon (16.3%) will flip and you seem to be ignoring the huge latino population in Nevada that tends to like things like the DREAM act (Romney has promised to repeal it -- at least that was his latest position). The only assertion that you make that is close to reality is that the youth vote will not play such an important role in this election.

    If the election breaks it will be for the President. Your candidate simply doesn't have the charisma to inspire people, the resume to motivate the base, or the courage to attract conservative Democrats or liberal independents.


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    I mean .. If you were hiring a CEO to run your company build wealth, create growth and jobs.. Who would you hire, Obama, no business experience, no executive experience.....??? Or Romney.. Obama is unqualified to run a Dairy Queen.
    Stay classy, Statman -- and keep thinking of Government as a business that is, apparently, not driven by a profit motive. Explain how that works to me. Also, some insight as to how the CEO of a private investment firm is qualified to lead such a radically different "business model" if you must insist on the analogy.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lakewood Husker View Post
    That is true, however business wants to know they have a friend in the White House, of which right now business is so scared to do anything that the confidence in doing anything is paralyzing.
    Per the most recent Rolling Stone article it sounds like the business world's most affluent will be able to curie favor with the potential President Romney based on their SuperPAC donations alone. The list is a who's who of misanthropes and henchmen that even you, lakewood, would cringe at. I love the talking point, by the way, that there is too much uncertainty and business men are scared -- as if the party of no has nothing to do with the unstable economic climate and near default of the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker Mort View Post
    Have another tall glass, Lakewood. You don't seem to understand politics in either Wisconsin or Ohio very well. Your sense that they have "gone Republican statewide" is accurate as of November, 2010, but you must not be watching the news lately. Walker and Kasich are among the least popular Governors in the entire country and their agendas have succeeded in nothing so grand as rallying the liberal and moderate base in either state and reminding union workers, many of which had switched tickets, why they used to vote for Democrats. Your claiming that there is a "huge advantage" is absurd on the heels of a statewide recall election and a landslide voter referendum that denounced the tea party agenda here. Losing Florida (a state Obama won by 2.5%) and North Carolina (.4%) wouldn't be shockers either. You haven't shown any evidence that Virginia (6.3%) or Oregon (16.3%) will flip and you seem to be ignoring the huge latino population in Nevada that tends to like things like the DREAM act (Romney has promised to repeal it -- at least that was his latest position). The only assertion that you make that is close to reality is that the youth vote will not play such an important role in this election.

    If the election breaks it will be for the President. Your candidate simply doesn't have the charisma to inspire people, the resume to motivate the base, or the courage to attract conservative Democrats or liberal independents.




    Stay classy, Statman -- and keep thinking of Government as a business that is, apparently, not driven by a profit motive. Explain how that works to me. Also, some insight as to how the CEO of a private investment firm is qualified to lead such a radically different "business model" if you must insist on the analogy.




    Per the most recent Rolling Stone article it sounds like the business world's most affluent will be able to curie favor with the potential President Romney based on their SuperPAC donations alone. The list is a who's who of misanthropes and henchmen that even you, lakewood, would cringe at. I love the talking point, by the way, that there is too much uncertainty and business men are scared -- as if the party of no has nothing to do with the unstable economic climate and near default of the US.
    Quickly mort as I am in the office today so I don't have a lot of time. In Wisconsin they will have in November 2 Republican US Senators and a Republican Gov. To me that is turning Republican.

    I have been watching the news and apparently you have missed my posts regarding Walker winning the recall on Tuesday that I had been posting for quite awhile, even before polls started to show the widening for Walker. Again I will after Romney selects a VP give my breakdown of the electorate and reasoning. Lastly in Nevada the union is everything there, they are responsible for the get out the vote efforts there and the unions are losing influence and quite frankly excitement from within. Nevada has a large Mormon base in Nevada that vote, the Latino vote in Nevada imo will not materialize because they are leaving in droves as there is no work and frankly they don't vote at the rate the Mormon vote will turnout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakewood Husker View Post
    I know what you mean when JFK ran my eyes were open to him taking orders from the Vatican.
    I've used this same example on my hardcore lefty friends to point out the absurdity of being worried about Romney taking orders from Salt Lake.

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    Jim Jones and the People's Temple, like the Branch Davidians, used powerful techniques and coercive tactics to deprive people of their free will.
    Like Joseph Smith's powerful techniques and coercive tactics to deprive people of their free will? (e.g., 1. his taking as his wives the wives of his followers after being caught physically "taking" them, driving him to come up with the talking hat stuff --- or 2. the early church practice of killing people who left the church).

    Where do you draw the line in your support of religionists on the spectrum where your Catholic faith is at one end (full respect) and live-sacrificing devil worshipers are at the other end of the spectrum, and the Joseph Smiths and the Jim Joneses fall somewhere in between?

    For me personally, I draw the line short of Joseph Smith and what I believe to be his made-up modern era religion. If a political candidate falls on the other side of the line from old Joe, it does not matter to me if the candidate is Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, agnostic, etc.

    My feeling that Mitt is a fool to believe the Morman fables to a point that he should not be President is based on my sense of logic, not based on any bigotry, which, if I may, is a word you apply on here to good people all too loosely and all too frequently when challenging discussions involving faith and logic come to an impasse.
    And, some people believe Obama's fascination with the beliefs and practices of Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Marx or Hitler are good logic for why he should not be President.

    Extremist rhetoric...guess both sides like to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakewood Husker View Post
    Quickly mort as I am in the office today so I don't have a lot of time. In Wisconsin they will have in November 2 Republican US Senators and a Republican Gov. To me that is turning Republican.

    I have been watching the news and apparently you have missed my posts regarding Walker winning the recall on Tuesday that I had been posting for quite awhile, even before polls started to show the widening for Walker. Again I will after Romney selects a VP give my breakdown of the electorate and reasoning. Lastly in Nevada the union is everything there, they are responsible for the get out the vote efforts there and the unions are losing influence and quite frankly excitement from within. Nevada has a large Mormon base in Nevada that vote, the Latino vote in Nevada imo will not materialize because they are leaving in droves as there is no work and frankly they don't vote at the rate the Mormon vote will turnout.
    (1) Walker avoiding recall says nothing about the November election.
    (2) The latino population is not all migrant laborers as you seem to imply and Romney's opposition against the DREAM act alone will get many of the permanent latino residents to the polls.
    (3) There are 170,000 Mormons in Nevada. Obama won by 120,000 in 2008 against a popular western politician. You need more Mormons to vote than are eligible to make your prognostication reality.
    (4) "Protestant/Other Christian" only broke at a rate of 51-47 for McCain.
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    UPDATE: Romney won't even be getting the votes of all the Mormons in Utah:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...home_multiline

    300 Mormons march in Utah Gay Pride Parade
    (AP) SALT LAKE CITY - More than 300 Mormon church members who are not gay drew shouts of approval and tears from spectators while marching in the Utah Gay Pride Parade in downtown Salt Lake City.

    The Mormons say they sought to send a message of love to Utah's lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community by joining the annual parade Sunday. Their participation marked the first time such a large group of Mormons took part in the parade, organizers said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker Mort View Post
    UPDATE: Romney won't even be getting the votes of all the Mormons in Utah:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...home_multiline
    That story doesn't say anything about who they are voting for. Do you know gay Mormons or non-gay Mormons in Utah who are sympathetic to gays who say they won't vote for Romney? Or how did you reach your conclusion?
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    I reached it through sarcasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker Mort View Post
    I reached it through sarcasm.
    Ok. That works.
    "It doesn't matter where you start or how people perceive you now or what your potential is. ... It's going to be how this football team comes together and meets the challenges ... I like our potential, but there's a lot of teams that like their potential. It's going to be how we put things together, how we grow and how we come together as a team. It's not going to be the best collection of talent, it's going to be the best team. ...." - Bo Pelini, Big 10 Media Days, 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by SealBeachHusker View Post
    And, some people believe Obama's fascination with the beliefs and practices of Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Marx or Hitler are good logic for why he should not be President.

    Extremist rhetoric...guess both sides like to use it.
    It is not about the rhetoric. It is about the candidates' adoption of the belief system of the "bad guys." One did. One didn't.

    If Obama adopted any of their dogma as his life religion, as Mitt did of Smith's, I'd say the comparison is noteworthy. In addition, if any of the above people sold their positions on the basis of supernatural events that are supposed to have occurred (with articles of their clothing ), as Smith did, and Obama devoted his life to it, as Romney did, I'd say the comparison is noteworthy.
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