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 Originally Posted by LutheranHusker
You're starting with the man in the mirror? You're asking him to change his ways? And no message could have been any clearer--if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make a change?
You just had yourself a Michael moment.
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 Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay
Ironically the centralized, highly appointed, top down structure of the oversize federal government is disliked by many while that same structure is preferred by some religious organizations and their followers.
 Originally Posted by cm husker
And this leads the question...
So?
Wow, hadn't had time to read this thread until now. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Jay tried to co-opt this one into another "bash the Catholic church" thread even though the topic had absolutely nothing to do with the church. Good job Jay, stay on point there, man!
 Originally Posted by Warhorse
Never been on a liberal blog in my life.
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 Originally Posted by FLA4NEB
The people living in a system that distributed the risk taking so a failure wouldn't bring the whole thing crashing down allowing more people to be innovated and take risk and than reap the reward or deal with the failure. That was a while ago and we are still living off the after glow of real freedom and liberty.
For a while now we have been centrilizing our selves, eliminating risk, limiting reward, and killing off innovation in the process. Not gone yet but it is just a dying ember of what it was. We the people need to realize we need to go back to a restrained government not a government set with the goal of making everything as fair and equal as possible.
Please define.."restrained government" and give a time when we had such a government. So are you saying that government should not make things as fair and equal as possible and that our state motto, "Equality Before the Law," is not "restrained" enough for your liking?
I cried because I had no shoes until I saw a man that had no feet.
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 Originally Posted by utsker
Thank you ever so much for this post. I hope you will take that in the purely puritanical spirit in which it was offered.
I cried because I had no shoes until I saw a man that had no feet.
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 Originally Posted by Warhorse
So are you saying that government should not make things as fair and equal as possible and that our state motto, "Equality Before the Law," is not "restrained" enough for your liking?
Government should ensure equal opportunity, not equal outcome, so, no, government's goal should not be to make everything "fair and equal." Civil Rights laws ensure equal opportunity, Affirmative Action is reverse discrimination and therefore does not.
I understood "Equality Before the Law" to mean that the law applies to everyone regardless of race, creed, social status, etc. I don't see how this "restrains" government.
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 Originally Posted by OmaHusker
Government should ensure equal opportunity, not equal outcome, so, no, government's goal should not be to make everything "fair and equal." Civil Rights laws ensure equal opportunity, Affirmative Action is reverse discrimination and therefore does not.
I understood "Equality Before the Law" to mean that the law applies to everyone regardless of race, creed, social status, etc. I don't see how this "restrains" government.
What existing or proposed US programs are designed to create equal outcomes rather than equal opportunity?
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What makes America great is that on any given day a guy may be the one that snags the hot chick, or be the one to jump on the fat girl grenade to plow the road for his friend to get the hot one.
It is all about brotherhood.
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 Originally Posted by Squatchsker
What makes America great is that on any given day a guy may be the one that snags the hot chick, or be the one to jump on the fat girl grenade to plow the road for his friend to get the hot one.
It is all about brotherhood.
Amen.
And for the more advanced....there's hoggin.
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 Originally Posted by RedPhoenix
Amen.
And for the more advanced....there's hoggin.
Careful, this might be deleted as being a post about former members.
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 Originally Posted by cm husker
What existing or proposed US programs are designed to create equal outcomes rather than equal opportunity?
EITC is one...
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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 Originally Posted by Warhorse
Please define.."restrained government" and give a time when we had such a government. So are you saying that government should not make things as fair and equal as possible and that our state motto, "Equality Before the Law," is not "restrained" enough for your liking?
 Originally Posted by OmaHusker
Government should ensure equal opportunity, not equal outcome, so, no, government's goal should not be to make everything "fair and equal." Civil Rights laws ensure equal opportunity, Affirmative Action is reverse discrimination and therefore does not.
I understood "Equality Before the Law" to mean that the law applies to everyone regardless of race, creed, social status, etc. I don't see how this "restrains" government.
Thank you OmaHusker.
Warhorse, are you for unrestrained government than? A government that has no restrict on being able to tell you what to do and how to do it?
America has had by far the most restrained government of any country. Over the last few decades we have allowed the government more and more power over us in return for more "security and protection". Franklin was right about trading your liberty for a little security...de Tocqueville said that at our core America was good and moral and made us different from the rest of the world. Governments aren't able to enforce those things but the culture of the people does and seeing how usual suspects have come to this thread you can see how we are losing much of what made us great and become like the rest of world. You can't have a restrained government if you don't have a good and moral cultural because when the culture fades people claimer for the government to protect them. When that government comes into provide security liberty decreases and with the decrease of liberty so the decrease of growth and prosperity.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson
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Chinese food, pizza, tacos, runzas, and pick up trucks.
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the fact that we have people that are literally too stupid to insult.
bonus goes to those who know where that line came from.
 Originally Posted by CombatTargeteer
I trust 57
 Originally Posted by HuskerWeatherman
He is the messiah.
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 Originally Posted by Huskers57
the fact that we have people that are literally too stupid to insult.
that is a global epidemic
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 Originally Posted by Squatchsker
that is a global epidemic
true.
 Originally Posted by CombatTargeteer
I trust 57
 Originally Posted by HuskerWeatherman
He is the messiah.
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 Originally Posted by Huskers57
the fact that we have people that are literally too stupid to insult.
bonus goes to those who know where that line came from. 
That's just stu... Oh, never mind.
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 Originally Posted by Huskers57
the fact that we have people that are literally too stupid to insult.
bonus goes to those who know where that line came from. 
In your FACE fatty!
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