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    What makes America great?

    True or false:

    The institutions that truly make America great – the families, the churches, and the businesses – are not administered by appointed lackeys, nor found in federal budgets. They come from free peoples allowed to flourish relatively unencumbered by overbearing governments.
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    simple...the people


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    Simplistic to the point of banality.
    "We need education in the obvious more than investigation of the obscure."

    "If you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

    “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.”

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    It's starting to drive me crazy how much each side, and one side in particular, dismisses the legitimacy of any position taken by the other. I don't know that it's never been worse, but it's as bad as I can remember.
    "We need education in the obvious more than investigation of the obscure."

    "If you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

    “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by cm husker View Post
    Simplistic to the point of banality.
    I'll mark that down as a "false."

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmaHusker View Post
    I'll mark that down as a "false."
    Whatever makes it easier for you.
    "We need education in the obvious more than investigation of the obscure."

    "If you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

    “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.”

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    Would you agree that the Manson family, the Westboro Church, and Enron don't make our country great?

    Would you agree that public education, police and fire departments, and a vibrant, well-structured and predictable legal system run by the government do help make the country great?
    "We need education in the obvious more than investigation of the obscure."

    "If you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

    “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by cm husker View Post
    Would you agree that the Manson family, the Westboro Church, and Enron don't make our country great?

    Would you agree that public education, police and fire departments, and a vibrant, well-structured and predictable legal system run by the government do help make the country great?
    It's a common mistake to interpret the disdain conservatives have for government as a conservative desire for no government. I agree the things you list are beneficial to society. But above all else, liberty, and the extent to which a people are free is inversely proportional to the size of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OmaHusker View Post
    But above all else, liberty, and the extent to which a people are free is inversely proportional to the size of government.
    Are you talking economic or social freedom? And I'm not sure that's entirely true, especially from an economic standpoint.

    We'd also probalby need to define "size of government" (e.g. bureaucrats per citizen, expenditure per person, expenditure as a % of gdp, etc).
    "We need education in the obvious more than investigation of the obscure."

    "If you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

    “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.”

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    What makes America great?

    Ironically the centralized, highly appointed, top down structure of the oversize federal government is disliked by many while that same structure is preferred by some religious organizations and their followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    Ironically the centralized, highly appointed, top down structure of the oversize federal government is disliked by many while that same structure is preferred by some religious organizations and their followers.
    And this leads the question...

    So?
    "We need education in the obvious more than investigation of the obscure."

    "If you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

    “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    Ironically the centralized, highly appointed, top down structure of the oversize federal government is disliked by many while that same structure is preferred by some religious organizations and their followers.
    Word...and then said religious folks who are anti government try and legislate their version of morality instead of allowing others their freedom and liberty....

    Yep...uber irony

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    Except the irony is lost when one considers that most Catholics are democrats, who ostensibly are ok with top down federal government organization, and most fundamentalists, whose religion is rarely top-down, are for smaller, less intrusive (by their definition, or more accurately, selection) government.
    "We need education in the obvious more than investigation of the obscure."

    "If you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

    “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.”

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    Thank goodness for some of you that there's a separation of church and state so you can follow in line with the bloated beast that is the federal government. No way people should be left to their own responsibilities.

    Liberty is for losers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cm husker View Post
    dismisses the legitimacy of any position taken by the other. I don't know that it's never been worse, but it's as bad as I can remember.
    Quote Originally Posted by cm husker View Post
    Whatever makes it easier for you.
    Irony? Nah

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    Quote Originally Posted by CornfieldCounty View Post
    Irony? Nah
    Actually, there's no irony there at all, because he was characterizing my statement that the situation is far more complicated as being "true or false" as false. So you are correct.

    Well done.
    "We need education in the obvious more than investigation of the obscure."

    "If you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

    “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPhoenix View Post
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    So much this.

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    False.

    What makes America great is that we have electorate that can influence the direction of the government at every level -- district, city, county, state and national elections.

    We're a government by the people, for the people. It all counts.

    More people should pay attention to who's on their school boards and natural resource district boards than who's marrying who.


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