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    Quote Originally Posted by Showman View Post
    Wait, so Palin was thoroughly vetted before getting the VP nod? Is that the assertion going on here? Because that's pretty humorous.
    If Sarah Palin got 1/5 of the vetting she should have gotten, she wouldn't have made it within 500 miles of VP candidacy. Fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishioka View Post
    If Sarah Palin got 1/5 of the vetting she should have gotten, she wouldn't have made it within 500 miles of VP candidacy. Fact.
    Yeah, the comparison of her vetting to Obama's is kind of silly. Plenty went on...after the fact.
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    Oops!

    You'll notice mainstream media wrote these pieces 6 months after they appeared elsewhere. You'll also notice that the half the mainstream pieces report on what Palin, McCain, Hannity said on teh issue of Ayers and Wright and the other half provided cover or a defense for Obama, not hard hitting unbiased journalism.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-4605430.html.............................written 6/18/09
    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-501563_162-4029480.html........................written 6/26/09
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...lin-goes-afte/................................written 10/4/08
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics..............you get the point
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27343688...ma-ayers-ties/



    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannit...eremiah-wright.......................written 4/18/08
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120848023736325005.html.................................................. ..............written 3/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by McKinneyTXHusker View Post
    Wow... Huzkurz, I clearly remember both of those issues - past associations and lack of leadership and experience - being raised repeatedly by his opponents - Hillary during the primaries and the Republicans during the general campaign. I clearly remember them both - because I read about them - in the mainstream media!
    Yea, several months after Fox and the WSJ, etc made sure they couldn't ignore them any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuZkurZ View Post
    Oops!

    You'll notice mainstream media wrote these pieces 6 months after they appeared elsewhere. You'll also notice that the half the mainstream pieces report on what Palin, McCain, Hannity said on teh issue of Ayers and Wright and the other half provided cover or a defense for Obama, not hard hitting unbiased journalism.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-4605430.html.............................written 6/18/09
    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-501563_162-4029480.html........................written 6/26/09
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...lin-goes-afte/................................written 10/4/08
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics..............you get the point
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27343688...ma-ayers-ties/



    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannit...eremiah-wright.......................written 4/18/08
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120848023736325005.html.................................................. ..............written 3/07

    OOPS you said the media "ignored" the story. They clearly didn't. And they were simply the first ones I found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuZkurZ View Post
    Oops!

    You'll notice mainstream media wrote these pieces 6 months after they appeared elsewhere. You'll also notice that the half the mainstream pieces report on what Palin, McCain, Hannity said on teh issue of Ayers and Wright and the other half provided cover or a defense for Obama, not hard hitting unbiased journalism.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-4605430.html.............................written 6/18/09
    http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-501563_162-4029480.html........................written 6/26/09
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...lin-goes-afte/................................written 10/4/08
    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics..............you get the point
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27343688...ma-ayers-ties/



    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannit...eremiah-wright.......................written 4/18/08
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120848023736325005.html.................................................. ..............written 3/07
    Ooops. Newsbusters points out CBS and ABC both ran stories on Obama and Ayers before April 17th.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...-just-neighbor

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    My opinion: No more "vetting" of Obama needed. We know more than we need to know.

    He has a record.

    $5 trillion spent in just three years, yet:

    - Over 8% unemployment
    - Untold under-employment
    - Flat Housing sector
    - Higher prices for food and fuel

    The old bang-for-the-buck. What have we gotten for all that we've had to pay for.

    Why let the Nancys campaigning for him have the satisfaction of not having to defend Obama on his record of results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuZkurZ View Post
    Yea, several months after Fox and the WSJ, etc made sure they couldn't ignore them any longer.
    Why did FOX allow they to be ignored at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by COsker View Post
    My opinion: No more "vetting" of Obama needed. We know more than we need to know.

    He has a record.

    $5 trillion spent in just three years, yet:

    - Over 8% unemployment
    - Untold under-employment
    - Flat Housing sector
    - Higher prices for food and fuel

    The old bang-for-the-buck. What have we gotten for all that we've had to pay for.

    Why let the Nancys campaigning for him have the satisfaction of not having to defend Obama on his record of results.
    I'll do just one:

    National average for gas, Summer 2008: $4.00+
    National average for gas today: ~$3.85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    I'll do just one:

    National average for gas, Summer 2008: $4.00+
    National average for gas today: ~$3.85

    From "Hope and Change"...to 15 cents pocket change. You summed it up nicely.

    If campaigning for Obama means haggling over 15 cents, well, one- I'm not surprised and two, it's a distraction from the big picture.

    Which may be why you took a swing at just one.

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    Why it matters that Obama dated a composite and ate a dog

    Sorry cohusker. YOU stated that part of his record is higher prices for fuel. I pointed out that that isn't necessarily the case. You might not be impressed with $.15 savings on gas prices. But that's not his campaign message. It's just the facts to prove your statement is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuZkurZ View Post
    I love that you use my stuff after I destroy your argument. I'm right AND you flatter me, it's like a double whammy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    Sorry Omahusker. YOU stated that part of his record is higher prices for fuel. I pointed out that that isn't necessarily the case. You might not be impressed with $.15 savings on gas prices. But that's not his campaign message. It's just the facts to prove your statement is wrong.
    It was COsker not Oma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    Sorry Omahusker. YOU stated that part of his record is higher prices for fuel. I pointed out that that isn't necessarily the case. You might not be impressed with $.15 savings on gas prices. But that's not his campaign message. It's just the facts to prove your statement is wrong.
    It was COsker not Oma.
    sorry Omahusker. Thanks RP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    I'll do just one:

    National average for gas, Summer 2008: $4.00+
    National average for gas today: ~$3.85
    But prices were under $2.00 when Obama took office in January of 2009. They had bottomed out after your summer 2008 amount.

    http://www.GasBuddy.com/gb_retail_pr...aspx?city1=USA

    So, I'd say fuel prices have definitely increased since he's been in office.

    The dumb graph link won't copy properly. Just do a 4-year query.

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    Gas prices in the Atlanta area have dropped $.30 in the last few weeks. Time to blame Obama for cutting into Big Oil Company profits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskerwirejay View Post
    Sorry cohusker. YOU stated that part of his record is higher prices for fuel. I pointed out that that isn't necessarily the case. You might not be impressed with $.15 savings on gas prices. But that's not his campaign message. It's just the facts to prove your statement is wrong.
    (What is it with the caps stuff...YOU). I know what I said, thank...you.

    Yes, part of his record is higher prices for fuel. Pointing out that at some point in the summer of 2008 that gas was $4 or so a gallon, and that right now, it's $3.85...compares now to what you may have found as a high point in the summer of 2008. Prices at some point this year have been over $4 per gallon. So I don't see your comparison as a 'fact' disproving anything.

    But good to know that's the biggest problem you have with my high-level assessment of Mr. Obama's results.

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